Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

vinnyph

SwanJon wrote: »

uh-huh.
and what did I say?

I've put some of it in pretty colours to see if that helps.

I'm aware of that. You'll notice I never mentioned anything about being an ID.
You may also notice that Carmine never mentions his CDP when bragging about his bill....

So what was your point in mentioning it?

So you admit it is not a commission then as you named it. It is a discount off my bill. If it were a commission then it would be paid separately and each customer would be licensed as an agent. A customer only has to refer their friend to an 0800 number and the company does the rest. Quite a nice extra UWDC does for it's customers and something British Gas the company you work for doesn't do. Instead expecting their customers to pay a lot more towards advertising. True. Seems you are jealous.

I wasn't bragging as you rudely put it in regards to my usage. I merely put it up to show how out of touch the arguments on here have become. I have had people suggest that UWDC are very expensive on gas and electricity and suggest I move away. I have never told people what to do on here.

Answer to your last question. Why bring it up, and why come on here anyway. You usually say you only come on here if someone mentions British Gas. In that regards what has this got to do with you?

I have been a long term customer with UWDC and chose to be a distributor because it proved to be good.

SwanJon

vinnyph wrote: »

So you admit it is not a commission then as you named it. It is a discount off my bill.

Ah, the semantics argument. Like Keggs calims he's not a salesman. How about we call it 'money UW give you for promoting their services'?

vinnyph wrote: »

Instead expecting their customers to pay a lot more towards advertising.

So who pays for the CDP payments?

vinnyph wrote: »

Answer to your last question. Why bring it up, and why come on here anyway. You usually say you only come on here if someone mentions British Gas. In that regards what has this got to do with you?

I don't think I said I only come on here if someone mentions British Gas, but point me in the direction of the quote and I'll stand corrected (I know you wouldn't be making stuff up).

But don't let that stop you answering my original question.
Do you honestly believe that the introduction of a new tariff affect the price of an old tariff (SOL16/17, Websaver4/5)? Or are you merely trying to suggest that to punters?

kippen_noedel

vinnyph wrote: »

Again you just change the context of what I said. You are not proving yourself to be a very able critic now are you. I put up a direct argument to you, merely that. Whether or not you believe in God and his judgement is for you sort out with him when he judges you. I merely pointed that to you. Will you be able to twist and concoct and blame it on him when he does.

you fail to see you do the exact thing you accuse me of, pitiful really,





now about those extremely high UW prices for gas and electricity, how can they guarantee to be the cheaper than anyone ?

janninew

SwanJon wrote: »

Fine, you point out the bit of my post where my employer is relevant.

Or are you using the fact that I work for British Gas to deflect from the main gist of my post?

You can't make your own rules up, you know that you HAVE to declare that you work for BG when you post, not just when you think its relevant! The same rules apply for UW as well, its not one rule for one and a different for another on here is it??

vinnyph

SwanJon wrote: »

Ah, the semantics argument. Like Keggs calims he's not a salesman. How about we call it 'money UW give you for promoting their services'?
So who pays for the CDP payments?

I don't think I said I only come on here if someone mentions British Gas, but point me in the direction of the quote and I'll stand corrected (I know you wouldn't be making stuff up).

But don't let that stop you answering my original question.
Do you honestly believe that the introduction of a new tariff affect the price of an old tariff (SOL16/17, Websaver4/5)? Or are you merely trying to suggest that to punters?

So who pays for your wages then. What about the millions paid out to your directors? The millions on advertising. At least in UWDC it goes back to the customer. Some of those customers chose to become distributors. You are trying to suggest now that customers are salespeople.

The original question you asked I already answered.

I suggest the motive for your post is merely that the CDP is something your customers don't get. You are jealous. If you can't beat em, ......

you have been told off by janninew now

kippen_noedel

vinnyph wrote: »

So who pays for your wages then. What about the millions paid out to your directors?

as opposed to the 30,000 salespeople that are paid for with 300,000 customers having to pay very high prices for their gas and electricity.

deception from the morally corrupt is portrayed once again





now about those extremely high UW prices for gas and electricity, how can they guarantee to be the cheaper than anyone ?

vinnyph

kippen_noedel wrote: »

you fail to see you do the exact thing you accuse me of, pitiful really,





now about those extremely high UW prices for gas and electricity, how can they guarantee to be the cheaper than anyone ?

But I haven't borne false witness on someone, or denied God you have done that yourself. It seems your argument is with God not me.

Your energy quote is meaningless. My energy prices with UWDC are not extremely high. In fact they one of the cheapest. UWDC do not guarantee to be cheaper than anyone as you suggest. So both of those are things you have made up.

Do you ever concede.

I have been a long term customer with UWDC and chose to be a distributor because it proved to be good.

vinnyph

kippen_noedel wrote: »

as opposed to the 30,000 salespeople that are paid for with 300,000 customers having to pay very high prices for their gas and electricity.

deception from the morally corrupt is portrayed once again





now about those extremely high UW prices for gas and electricity, how can they guarantee to be the cheaper than anyone ?

It's only your statement that you are saying that UWDC prices are high. How do you explain my own being one of the cheapest or do you just ignore things that don't fall in line with your opinion? Have you verified that for every case yourself or merely jumping on the AUWF bandwagon. I can answer that myself because I have been a customer for a long time.

My bill is £591 with UWDC including discounts. You pay a lot more yet you criticise me. You also criticise me for economising as well.

Those 33,000 distributors (probably more now) are also customers who have chosen to distribute the services as well. They get recommendations from satisfied customers. You mean you don't get paid for recommending something that is good.

What I have learnt is that you like to use words in order to attempt to get at someone, what you haven't learnt is that I don't take any notice. I have a clear conscience.

You have never been a customer yet try to criticise UWDC as if you know more than me, you don't.

I have been a long term customer with UWDC and chose to be a distributor because it proved to be good.

kippen_noedel

vinnyph wrote: »

It seems your argument is with God not me.

No no, don;t go answering your own questions once again, my problem is with how you brought the subject up, not any other reason, just you.

It is your vanity I have a problem with, you claim to be a god fearing man but continue to use his name and make judgements in his name. Just who do you think you are ??

I see no evidence of the existence of any God,so how can I argue with someone that I don't believe exists ? If one does exist I will discuss that when the time arises with the relevant deity. You however are a disgrace to your religion, you take the name of your God in vain, you are full of pride, you lie and you cheat. Yet still you say you are a good man, I pity you.

vinnyph wrote: »

Your energy quote is meaningless. My energy prices with UWDC are not extremely high. In fact they one of the cheapest. UWDC do not guarantee to be cheaper than anyone as you suggest.

Made them up have I, ???you make yet another stupid blatant lie

You truly are a fool, don't you remember this famous triple guarantee you pontificate about. hilarious once again. No wonder you make such a bad liar.

Our unique "Triple Value" guarantee will give you peace of mind.

• For your gas, we guarantee our prices will always be lower than British Gas, wherever you live in the UK.
• For your electricity, we guarantee our prices will always be cheaper than the prices charged by your regional electricity supplier for the area where you live.

Except of course for all the exceptions to that guarantee

blah de blah de blah, except if this except for that, blah de blah de blah

It's a bit like me selling a rolls Royce without an engine and saying it's one of the most fuel effieient cars in the world. True it is one of the most efficient, but only because it can't be driven but it's still a Rolls. :rotfl:

Cardew

janninew wrote: »

You can't make your own rules up, you know that you HAVE to declare that you work for BG when you post, not just when you think its relevant! The same rules apply for UW as well, its not one rule for one and a different for another on here is it??

Jannienew

Your memory is going!!;)

You raised this point before - and about SwanJon.

Swanjon does not have to declare he works for BG unless the thread is about BG. Albeit if he was 'pushing' BG products in this thread(which he never does) it would wise to make such a declaration.

Martin made a ruling about this in another thread , when some idiot tried to wrongly intrepret MSE's rules.

He stated:

The rules have always been simple, if you are engaged in a discussion where you work for a company involved, then you should mention it. However it shouldn't be in your signature as it is only for relevant posts.

If anyone has a problem with the fact someone is posting and appears to be touting for business or misleading then as always there is NO need to react to it - simply e-mail [EMAIL="abuse@moneysavingexpert.com"]abuse@moneysavingexpert.com[/EMAIL].

All the best

Martin

See the discussion at around post #7728 and in post #7731 you acknowledged that this was correct.