Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

Plushchris

vinnyph wrote: »

I have never suggested people not check for themselves. That is something you inferring something again. What I have said is that the online energy swapping sites do not include any of the UWDC discounts..

But based on usage if they are the cheapest they will still come near the top right?

What discounts should the comparison sites include Vinny? I'm genuinely interested in what you think they should include but you never answer

Dont forget that OVO dont even have any discounts whatsoever and STILL come out cheaper than UW

Quentin

What vinny calls a discount is really his cashback and commission which uw uses as part payment for his expensive energy bills!

vinnyph wrote:

CDP discount @19.5% of £1441.65 = -£281.12
cashback card discount 5% of £6500 = -£325

vinnyph

kippen_noedel wrote: »

Then explain what you meant by saying such a disgusting thing in the first place, if you want I can go back and quote from the other shameful comments you have made that you deny making.

I pity you because you are morally corrupt, I am disgusted at your lack of basic decency. I don't claim to be a good person, you do, yet time after time you reveal your true nature. A pride ridden liar.


and since when is a question about energy in an energy forum irrelevant ? Ah of course, it's not your own question, that would be why..

I have already explained that. Now you must admit you were making a number of scathing attacks on Christianity at the time and myself. The question that had been brought up was as to whether God is creator and denial of God. I said this,

'Still certain you can disprove god. God wasted his time when he created you'.

meaning simply, God is creator yet you deny him and deny he created you, so he wasted time creating you. God created you out of love yet you merely deny that.

Now if I was so morally corrupt and had no basic decency as you say, why would I waste time speaking to you. I was merely pointing out to you who created who.

vinnyph

Quentin wrote: »

What vinny calls a discount is really his cashback and commission which uw uses as part payment for his expensive energy bills!

No that's not right Quentin.

NigeWick

kippen_noedel wrote: »

The thing I am surprised about with all these UW salespeople participating in this thread is that I have asked numerous times for a quote for my services but it has been ignored each time.

Just go to the company web site and you can work it out yourself. That's almost what Carmine did as I just sent him a copy of the .pdf for gas and electricity prices.

I am a Utility Warehouse independent distributor and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

kippen_noedel

vinnyph wrote: »

'Still certain you can disprove god. God wasted his time when he created you'.

So it wasn't you that wished I hadn't been born ?? your blaming God for wasting his time on me instead. My what an opinion of yourself that you have, assigning your own judgment on what he does with his time.

I pity you, morally corrupt, sinful person that you are and you don't even know it.



now about those extremely high UW prices for gas and electricity, how can they guarantee to be the cheaper than anyone ?

NigeWick

Quentin wrote: »

You are a lair.

Now what?

You are a liar.

Unless of course you can provide the link, or proof of your Utility Warehouse pre payment card beating cashback card?

I am a Utility Warehouse independent distributor and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

SwanJon

oh, busy busy busy on here, now let me see..
Vinny finally fronts up some details (which Carmine has been scared(?) to do)
Let’s have a look.

vinnyph wrote: »

I currently pay £591.92 in total with my discounts

What discounts?

vinnyph wrote: »

£168 CDP discount

So, I’m guessing ‘CDP discount’ is the commission you get as a customer for recommending a new customer to UW, so any new person you sign up would not have this level of discount (at least to begin with)?

vinnyph wrote: »

24/7 free calls worth minimum £93 discount

And here it is. This is the discount you wouldn’t get if you didn’t take Gas & Electricity from UW. How much this is worth to you will be different to how much it is worth to others. As such Switching sites cannot quantify it, but should probably include it in the way they include Nectar and clubcard points.
But IDs – what calls do I get free without gas & electricity?

vinnyph wrote: »

I currently pay £591.92 in total with my discounts as listed in previous post for my usage with UWDC for upto 24mbps broadband, line rental, telephone with 24/7 free calls, gas and electricity.
The cheapest outside of UWDC would be £845 for gas and electricity with british gas and £317.76 with talktalk for equivalent broadband,telephone and line rental package including £4/month free calls 24/7 topup and £4/month upto 24mbps topup. That totals £1162.76.

See the bit at the top of the page? Gas & Electricity forum, so let’s focus on that for now, eh?

vinnyph wrote: »

membership fee £20.70
broadcall £239.88 (take 4 services and get free calls 24/7)
gas and electricity £1164.87
casback card fee £16.20
total before discounts £1441.65
CDP discount @19.5% of £1441.65 = -£281.12
cashback card discount 5% of £6500 = -£325
There is also a £100 rebate for new customers of UWDC so I haven't included this.

Ok, anything in red can be discounted as you are charged/discounted this even if you don’t have UW Gas & electricity.
The blue is Vinny’s personal sales discount, not applicable to new joinees.
So, for new joinees, I make that £1441.65 with £100 back in month 13 + the cost of calls that would be included.
Vinny now has another go at discrediting his competitors.

vinnyph wrote: »

This was Npower sign online 17, recently introduced. Sign online 16 introduced a few months ago is listed on eneryhelpline at £1022 for same usage.

Vinny – did the introduction of the sign online 17 tariff affect the price of sign online 16?
I previously asked this about two British Gas tariffs and you ignored me. Should I expect any more here?

vinnyph wrote: »

What I have said is that the online energy swapping sites do not include any of the UWDC discounts.

What, you mean the unquantifiable 24/7 calls?

1carminestocky wrote: »

Who would pay for vinnyph's calls, PC?

See, even Carmine accepts that this is the only discount you get for taking Gas and electricity from UW, he just blusters around a lot.

1carminestocky wrote: »

if everyone whose shopping pattern fitted the cashback card enough to make UW the cheapest option was to sign up to UW, I reckon they would crash into the Top 3 G&E companies in the UK on customer numbers.

Oh, no he seems to have forgotten his first sentence. You can get all the benefits of the Card without taking Gas and electricity from UW

NigeWick wrote: »

Fine. But, I pay less (as do others) to Utility Warehouse for my electricity, gas, broadband, phone lines & mobile phones than I would to any other company or combination of companies.

Nige changes one of his mantras to include the other services, so we are getting closer. However, ge keeps trying to deflect the discussion away from UW’s Gas and electricity.
Hmmm.
A thank you to all my readers, and remember to do your own checks, make your own decisions, and play nicely.

kippen_noedel

NigeWick wrote: »

Just go to the company web site and you can work it out yourself. That's almost what Carmine did as I just sent him a copy of the .pdf for gas and electricity prices.

I am a Utility Warehouse independent distributor and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

I did, obviously though I got something wrong because it showed me that they were going to be substantially more expensive,& given all the assurances by the UW salespepople here and the guarantee by UW that they are cheaper it must be me that got it wrong..

NigeWick

Cardew wrote: »

"Strange that the pro UW faction don't want to discuss these figures but prefer to concentrate on personal attacks."

No need to discuss figures as we are all individuals and able to find prices on the Utility Warehouse web site. The company's services may not be for you and that is fine. However, as I showed months ago, I pay less to Utility Warehouse for my electricity and gas than I would to any other company or combination of companies.

Why not answer the question I have previously asked:-

Do you believe there is not one person (not being a UW distributor) who can benefit by being a Utility Warehouse customer?

I am a Utility Warehouse independent distributor and the views I express may not be shared by the company.