Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

vinnyph

Plushchris wrote: »

But based on usage if they are the cheapest they will still come near the top right?

What discounts should the comparison sites include Vinny? I'm genuinely interested in what you think they should include but you never answer

Dont forget that OVO dont even have any discounts whatsoever and STILL come out cheaper than UW

There are still some cases where UWDC come out cheaper than OVO just on energy. For my usage UWDC are cheaper than OVO. However add in the discounts with UWDC and

You say I never answer on your questions over discounts, but they have been put up on here dozens of times. I have listed most of them already today. The UWDC website lists them. You have been coming on here for years, you should know them by now. If you think you are able to be a critic of UWDC surely you should know them already.

Whether the discounts go on the online energy swapping sites is really not my issue really. UWDC is doing very well without paying commission for advertising on those sites. It works by referral from satisfied customers instead through a network or satisfied Distributors.

Now I have never said that UWDC are always a solution for everyone. When I go and see someone, I tell people if I think it will save them. If it won't I will tell them also and walk away, but that usually is just the case if someone is locked into contract with another company for some services. I merely let them decide. However I have been called back before because people liked everything else and decided to take it themselves. If they understand what they are getting and decided to take it themselves then I can't really refuse them. I let them decide.

Just wondering why you are really asking the same questions again when they have already been answered many times over?

Quentin

NigeWick wrote: »

You are a liar.

When you keep randomly posting this, in your role as a uw rep, you just succeed in bringing your company into (further) disrepute.

So carry on!

NigeWick

SwanJon wrote: »

A thank you to all my readers, and remember to do your own checks, make your own decisions, and play nicely.

Not forgetting to declare an interest when involved in discussions involving goods or services that the company your work with is relevant.

I am a Utility Warehouse independent distributor and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

NigeWick

Quentin wrote: »

When you keep randomly posting this, in your role as a uw rep, you just succeed in bringing your company into (further) disrepute.

So carry on!

It is not random at all. It is directed at you. You made a claim and refuse to either support it or admit a mistake.

You are a liar.

Unless of course you can provide the link, or proof of your Utility Warehouse pre payment card beating cashback card?

I am a Utility Warehouse independent distributor and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

SwanJon

NigeWick wrote: »

Not forgetting to declare an interest when involved in discussions involving goods or services that the company your work with is relevant.

Fine, you point out the bit of my post where my employer is relevant.

Or are you using the fact that I work for British Gas to deflect from the main gist of my post?

NigeWick

kippen_noedel wrote: »

I did, obviously though I got something wrong because it showed me that they were going to be substantially more expensive,& given all the assurances by the UW salespepople here and the guarantee by UW that they are cheaper it must be me that got it wrong..

Perhaps the prices and benefits will not work out right for you. That's OK, stay with another company. I have to use the pre payment card to get what I want and do not mind admitting it. Carmine is also in a position where (at this time) he benefits by being a customer. I have no doubt that if his circumstances change, he will not hesitate to go elsewhere too.

Should I ask you the same question I have asked Cardew?

Do you believe there is not one person (not being a UW distributor) who can benefit by being a Utility Warehouse customer?

I am a Utility Warehouse independent distributor and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

vinnyph

SwanJon wrote: »

oh, busy busy busy on here, now let me see..
Vinny finally fronts up some details (which Carmine has been scared(?) to do)
Let’s have a look.

What discounts?

So, I’m guessing ‘CDP discount’ is the commission you get as a customer for recommending a new customer to UW, so any new person you sign up would not have this level of discount (at least to begin with)?

And here it is. This is the discount you wouldn’t get if you didn’t take Gas & Electricity from UW. How much this is worth to you will be different to how much it is worth to others. As such Switching sites cannot quantify it, but should probably include it in the way they include Nectar and clubcard points.
But IDs – what calls do I get free without gas & electricity?

See the bit at the top of the page? Gas & Electricity forum, so let’s focus on that for now, eh?

Ok, anything in red can be discounted as you are charged/discounted this even if you don’t have UW Gas & electricity.
The blue is Vinny’s personal sales discount, not applicable to new joinees.
So, for new joinees, I make that £1441.65 with £100 back in month 13 + the cost of calls that would be included.
Vinny now has another go at discrediting his competitors.

Vinny – did the introduction of the sign online 17 tariff affect the price of sign online 16?
I previously asked this about two British Gas tariffs and you ignored me. Should I expect any more here?

What, you mean the unquantifiable 24/7 calls?

See, even Carmine accepts that this is the only discount you get for taking Gas and electricity from UW, he just blusters around a lot.

Oh, no he seems to have forgotten his first sentence. You can get all the benefits of the Card without taking Gas and electricity from UW

Nige changes one of his mantras to include the other services, so we are getting closer. However, ge keeps trying to deflect the discussion away from UW’s Gas and electricity.
Hmmm.
A thank you to all my readers, and remember to do your own checks, make your own decisions, and play nicely.

Actually you made a number of errors on there Swanjon. CDP or customer discount plan is open to every customer. I am a distributor as well, I get paid differently and separately on that. The CDP is off my bill. Carmine gets the CDP discount as well since he is a customer. I have only mentioned my usage. I cannot estimate other peoples without knowing what they use. Some customers get more discounts than me and end up with a negative bill as a result of the discounts. Even without the CDP discount I personally would pay less overall than with any other collection of companies.

I never said that the npower sign online 16 went up in price when siign online 17 was introduced. I just showed how much the old npower online price was.

NigeWick

SwanJon wrote: »

Fine, you point out the bit of my post where my employer is relevant.

Then why not state it once a day as others are supposed to do?

I am a Utility Warehouse independent distributor and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

vinnyph

kippen_noedel wrote: »

So it wasn't you that wished I hadn't been born ?? your blaming God for wasting his time on me instead. My what an opinion of yourself that you have, assigning your own judgment on what he does with his time.

I pity you, morally corrupt, sinful person that you are and you don't even know it.



now about those extremely high UW prices for gas and electricity, how can they guarantee to be the cheaper than anyone ?

Again you just change the context of what I said. You are not proving yourself to be a very able critic now are you. I put up a direct argument to you, merely that. Whether or not you believe in God and his judgement is for you sort out with him when he judges you. I merely pointed that to you. Will you be able to twist and concoct and blame it on him when he does.

SwanJon

vinnyph wrote: »

Actually you made a number of errors on there Swanjon. CDP or customer discount plan is open to every customer.

uh-huh.
and what did I say?

SwanJon wrote: »

So, I’m guessing ‘CDP discount’ is the commission you get as a customer for recommending a new customer to UW

I've put some of it in pretty colours to see if that helps.

vinnyph wrote: »

I am a distributor as well, I get paid differently and separately on that. The CDP is off my bill. Carmine gets the CDP discount as well since he is a customer.

I'm aware of that. You'll notice I never mentioned anything about being an ID.
You may also notice that Carmine never mentions his CDP when bragging about his bill....

vinnyph wrote: »

I never said that the npower sign online 16 went up in price when siign online 17 was introduced. I just showed how much the old npower online price was.

So what was your point in mentioning it?