Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

1carminestocky

NigeWick wrote: »

How do you manage to get to that conclusion from what you actually quoted her as saying?

>>>Originally Posted by janninew
People on here (one in particular) need to realise that not everybody is average, lots of people use the phone during the day and we all have different needs. UW caters well from some people's needs (not all people by any means!). Why can't the anti UW accept that fact and stop being so ignorant as to suggest where we get our utilities from when we have stated that we are perfectly happy with our choice! Sorry for the rant!<<<

I am an independent distributor with Utility Warehouse and views I express may not be shared by the company.

I'm assuming you haven't had dealings with mech before, Nige? That sort of reaction is par for the course with him, I'm afraid. He clearly has his own 'agenda', posts deliberately inflammatory posts then whinges that people are jumping down his throat. Funnily enough, that's exactly the reaction he wants.

SwanJon

Vinny,

Just to remind you of your, hmm, I'll be nice and say misunderstanding. Falsehood would also fit.

vinnyph wrote: »

The discount with the big 6 disappears within few months.

vinnyph wrote: »

I much prefer to be friendly, ethical and professional without any pressure. I wait for the customer to make a decision, its up to them.

Anyway a few numbers.

standard £957
click 1 £922
click 2 £911
click 3 £911
click 4 £877
click 5 £902
click 6 £848
websaver 1 £853
websaver 2 £858
websaver 3 £857
websaver 4 £835

So on which one of the tariffs you list has the discount disappeared within a few months?
The click tariffs were set up as their own tariff, with no relation to the standard tariffs. When the standard tariff has changed, so have they. The websavers were set up to track at eleast a certain percentage below standard, and again they will change at the same time as standard.
Note that at no point am I saying I like the fact that the difference has reduced, but I want to know why a UW ID feels the need to make things up about a competitor. Why not stick to the truth? Are you hiding something? If I've caught you in this falsehood, what other falsehoods haven't I caught?

As to my phone line it is purely Cable - it is the TV that is both Sky & Cable. So I'd need a plug in box, and pay cable's line rental. Now I just need a free weekend, a calculator and discussions with Sky & Virgin.

PS I work for British Gas, but this in no way affects any statement I have made above. If I am incorrect, please let me know

keggs

Hi Swanjon

You will need a smart box for each extension in your house. You can up to 4 for free.

Hope that helps

Steve
UW Distributor & Very Happy Customer

keggs

Hi rael

Re the Internet phone line. The little box of tricks is about 3 - 4 inches square so very portable.

Steve
UW Distributor & Very Happy Customer

1carminestocky

mech wrote: »

Irrelevant. You are squirming. The point is, most people don't use these prefixes and the average saving is still under £5 a month. With the prefixes as a valid alternative the true saving is even smaller. Vinny said "most" people make daytime calls. They clearly don't. "Most" is more than half of the population, right? Even if half of the population of the UK spent nothing at all on calls other than to mobiles, the other half would still be spending only an average of circa £10 a month. It's really not possible to make out that it's a worthwhile saving for "most" people. It was simply not true.

You could program the prefix into a preset on the phone. Very little hassle to press one extra button each time. Forgetting is indeed possible, but for those who can manage it, it still reduces the potentially less-than-£5 saving of being lumbered with UW electricity and gas. That's the point. The saving is minimal for the vast majority of people.

mech, you don't seem to be able to get this in your noggin. You live alone, have no car, spend £15 a week on food and groceries and god knows what mininscule amount on gas and electricity. You are not and very probably never will be the sort of demographic who would benefit from UW and its various initiatives. What you just don't seem capable of understanding is not everybody lives like you, many people have partners, families, kids, cars and have no desire to live what they would probably deem to be an austere lifestyle. UW is the best option for me partly because my lifestyle couldn't be much more different to yours if it tried. I have 2 sons who also have long-term girlfriends, both of whom seem to prefer our house to their parents so there are generally 6 people in the house (4 bedrooms). I also have 2 dogs and we have a total of 3 cars on the drive. The cashback card works like a dream FOR US. It would be useless for you. Absolutely. So what?

No-one is trying to tell you how to live your life and what utility company to choose, certainly in my case it's of absolutely no interest to me. Why are you so interested in telling me how to live my life? Get this - I would rather cut off my nads than live your lifestyle, BUT I wouldn't tell you to live any other way as that's YOUR choice. Show a bit of humility and treat my choices with the same respect.

keggs

1carminestocky wrote: »

mech, you don't seem to be able to get this in your noggin. You live alone, have no car, spend £15 a week on food and groceries and god knows what mininscule amount on gas and electricity. You are not and very probably never will be the sort of demographic who would benefit from UW and its various initiatives. What you just don't seem capable of understanding is not everybody lives like you, many people have partners, families, kids, cars and have no desire to live what they would probably deem to be an austere lifestyle. UW is the best option for me partly because my lifestyle couldn't be much more different to yours if it tried. I have 2 sons who also have long-term girlfriends, both of whom seem to prefer our house to their parents so there are generally 6 people in the house (4 bedrooms). I also have 2 dogs and we have a total of 3 cars on the drive. The cashback card works like a dream FOR US. It would be useless for you. Absolutely. So what?

No-one is trying to tell you how to live your life and what utility company to choose, certainly in my case it's of absolutely no interest to me. Why are you so interested in telling me how to live my life? Get this - I would rather cut off my nads than live your lifestyle, BUT I wouldn't tell you to live any other way as that's YOUR choice. Show a bit of humility and treat my choices with the same respect.

Unfortunately, that's a general problem with the anti UW faction. They feel justified in telling anyone who happens to be a customer (or thinking of t) that it's a bad idea but when asked to prove who else can offer what the UW offers for different people's different circumstances, they faff about offering nothing. Quentin's non existent Cash back card is a case in point.

I have said from the beginning when I joined this forum that the main members of the AUW squad have their own agenda and it isn't about money saving. That's just a ruse. There is more to their attacks than they are letting on (Jimexbox excepted - he IMHO just goes with the flow as he clearly doesn't really know what he's talking about most of the time). I suspected a long time ago that Quentin was a disgruntled ID as did Avenger more recently. As for Cardew, I am unsure what to make of him.

The fact is and 300,000 members of the UWDC are proof positive that the UWDC does offer great value but it ISN'T FOR EVERYONE IF THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES AREN'T RIGHT. How many more times does this simple fact have to be shouted till those implacable opponents of the UW finally get the message.

One other simple fact that they also appear not to comprehend is that the UWDC is here to stay and is growing at a tremendous rate and will continue to do so to provide a growing number of households and businesses great value for money services and an fantastic opportunity to earn another income. And the potential for a very large income indeed. All for helping people save money which they do!

Steve
UW Disributor & Very Happy Customer

vinnyph

SwanJon wrote: »

Vinny,

Just to remind you of your, hmm, I'll be nice and say misunderstanding. Falsehood would also fit.



So on which one of the tariffs you list has the discount disappeared within a few months?
The click tariffs were set up as their own tariff, with no relation to the standard tariffs. When the standard tariff has changed, so have they. The websavers were set up to track at eleast a certain percentage below standard, and again they will change at the same time as standard.
Note that at no point am I saying I like the fact that the difference has reduced, but I want to know why a UW ID feels the need to make things up about a competitor. Why not stick to the truth? Are you hiding something? If I've caught you in this falsehood, what other falsehoods haven't I caught?

As to my phone line it is purely Cable - it is the TV that is both Sky & Cable. So I'd need a plug in box, and pay cable's line rental. Now I just need a free weekend, a calculator and discussions with Sky & Virgin.

PS I work for British Gas, but this in no way affects any statement I have made above. If I am incorrect, please let me know

Looking back at the post I made the term disappears was meant to mean that the discount progressively reduces over time as indicated by the rates changing over time in that post. I did not mean it completely disappears in the sense of going exactly back to standard rates and thought I made that clear enough in the post because of the way the rates change. I also stated that this doesn't mean not to go with BG, I leave it up to the customer to make their choice after all. The BG customer I went to see was on the original BG click on-line deal. It was he who didn't actually like the way it worked with BG click on-line and felt that it wasn't the deal he originally went for. I remained impartial to the matter. I certainly didn't attempt to lead him towards UW but just told him how things worked with UW instead. He made the decision himself because he liked the way it worked with UW. He preferred the way it meant he could get cheaper calls and everything else that meant he saved more in total. He also liked the credibility of the company as he was recommended to me from a friend of mine who has now been with UW as a customer for years. It was he who requested to go with UW, not me. He said he used to like BG but had become progressively disheartened with them. If he made the request to go with UW it would silly not to sign him up after going to see him. He has stayed for a number of years and given me a number of referrals and we have become good friends.

UW distributor, customer and all around good guy, I always try to be. Sometimes poet when I get the urge.

SwanJon

vinnyph wrote: »

Looking back at the post I made the term disappears was meant to mean that the discount progressively reduces over time as indicated by the rates changing over time in that post. I did not mean it completely disappears in the sense of going exactly back to standard rates

Disappears means disappears, goes away, is no longer there.
http://www.answers.com/disappears
You said it disappears within a few months. That is incorrect. If you can redefine words to suit you, how do I know what I'm signing? Could you just decide that a monthly payment needs to be made weekly?
This is what worries me about UW.

vinnyph wrote: »

He also liked the credibility of the company

vinnyph

SwanJon wrote: »

Disappears means disappears, goes away, is no longer there.
http://www.answers.com/disappears
You said it disappears within a few months. That is incorrect. If you can redefine words to suit you, how do I know what I'm signing? Could you just decide that a monthly payment needs to be made weekly?
This is what worries me about UW.

Can I just be direct because I can't be bothered for this to turn in to one of your arguments where you imply that I have said something wrong only for whatever replies I make to be used against me as a weapon. I think I have already made it clear enough. I have made already two further posts stating that. If your intention is to try to illicit a bad response from me in order to use it against me then you should realise it won't wash. Instead of trying to be on bad terms and win points why not just try to be friendly. You said yourself you didn't like the way BG click deals reduce over time. I have remained impartial. It is not me to judge that but it happens. Is it your responsibility to judge me or imply something else from what I said. Is it because I mentioned BG and you work for BG that you make a response. Come on you can't really love BG that much.

UW distributor, customer. Helper of grannies across road.

Cardew

keggs wrote: »

The fact is and 300,000 members of the UWDC are proof positive that the UWDC does offer great value
Steve
UW Disributor & Very Happy Customer

There are some 18 million BG customers and 2 million with Npower.

Using that flawed logic must prove that BG and Npower offer great value.