Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

Maz

Cardew wrote: »

Fortunately no.

However I can understand that you must be a huge disappointment to your real father, which is why he has disappeared.

Please don't give up - I am sure you will find him.

Thank god for that, I couldn't live with the embarassment or public ridicule! Plus, I would certainly berate my mother for her appalling taste in bigoted men.

Incidentally, my father has recently died so the chances of me finding him soon are pretty remote. I still think of him in the present tense so maybe my post threw you a little with its wording. I apologise for my bad grammar and sentence structure.

But, you share some personality traits with one exception. My father had not had a sense of humour and empathy quadruple bypass.

I do note a particularly viscious undertone to your reply, which is, to my mind, indicative of an individual lacking in some sort of common empathy with their fellow human beings and their right for freedom of choice/thought.

My father was most definitely not disappointed by me - quite the reverse in fact. In spite of our frequent heated debates, he was proud of the fact that I had my own voice and would have it heard. He admired me for speaking out for what I believed, although he may not have necessarily agreed with it.

I hope you're ashamed of yourself in your obnoxious crusade and your attack on individuals whose only crime is not to share your opnion.

vinnyph

I think if Cardew was a real man he would see that the right thing to do when hurting a ladies feelings is to apologise even if it wasn't intentional but only that he sometimes puts his foot in his mouth. Maz may not forgive him for it however it is the right thing to do. As John Wayne would say, 'when a man's got to do what a man's got to do'.

keggs

It's a shame people here have become so nasty when after all it's only money we are discussing. In the grand scheme of things it isn't important.

Steve

jimexbox

keggs wrote: »

It's a shame people here have become so nasty when after all it's only money we are discussing. In the grand scheme of things it isn't important.

Steve

Totally agree, although personal insults seems to be 'stock n' trade' for one or two reps. It would seem a tactic to avoid discusing UW high prices. Next time vinny or yourself stating insulting MSE members I will just quote you, thanks.

jimexbox

1carminestocky wrote: »

1)PS Unlike the npower annual discount paid in arrears I'm assuming the switching sites won't be including UWs annual discount in the figures shown on account of it requiring the taking up of a UW telephony product. Personally, I'll actually be very glad if that turns out to be the case. I've never agreed with the inclusion of npower's annual discount on the switching sites as most people (including Quentin!) don't even realise they have to stay for 12 months and that's just not right. Mind you, at least it's mentioned, unlike Eon's disgraceful loss of discount on final bill to ALL it's punters, no matter how long they have been loyal. NO b*gger knows about that one! I'd love to know the most an unsuspecting punter has been stung for with that one...

Why should the switching sites show a discount that is a one off discount which existing customers on the same tariff wont get? Plus as you correctly point out, you need to take 3 services to qualify for the one off payment. How many more hoops will you have to jump through to receive this discount? Have a tortoise called Alan?

Oh carmine you must be ever so slightly embarrassed? You have spent enormous amounts of your time railing against 'unfair' clauses in energy supplier tariffs, you point out endlessly that UW don't engage in such practices and they institute a far more dubious penalty discount that Eon et al could ever imagine. One that snubs existing customers! What a huge slap in the face for those poor folk. You cant even change tariffs to receive this dubious discount, what a poor show. I feel sorry for you mate.

1carminestocky

Looking at his figures, this has now become a bit of a no-brainer for my father. Very low users will actually (proportionately) benefit more than others, of course. Plus he's been put on BT Basic even though he shouldn't qualify. A poisoned chalice for someone who uses his phone as much as my dad (not excessively but at the mobile-like rates BT charge on this tariff the bill soon shoots up. Deceitful BT). Hmmm...

jimexbox

1carminestocky wrote: »

Looking at his figures, this has now become a bit of a no-brainer for my father. Very low users will actually (proportionately) benefit more than others, of course. Plus he's been put on BT Basic even though he shouldn't qualify. A poisoned chalice for someone who uses his phone as much as my dad (not excessively but at the mobile-like rates BT charge on this tariff the bill soon shoots up. Deceitful BT). Hmmm...

Make sure to tell your dad about the one off discount, that is a one hit wonder, existing customers need not apply. Wouldn't like him to get a shock the year after....

NigeWick

jimexbox wrote: »

Did I not use the widely (although flawed) actual average UK energy usage figures?

You still don't get it do you? Using other people's or made up numbers will never be accurate for your own consumption. There are very few "average" people out there and from your own messages, you are not "average." Therefore it is highly unlikely that the comparison sites will give you a true representation of your best price. Even if YOU get the result you seek by using your usage, it certainly does not mean that the vast majority of others will on those same numbers because we are all different.

I am an independent distributor with Utility Warehouse and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

NigeWick

jimexbox wrote: »

The average user figures are set by Ofgem, although as I've already said they are deeply flawed.

Then why keep using them to try and prove your point then?

1carminestocky

Nige, why not just put him on ignore? Seriously, it's pure bliss. He's genuinely not worth your time.