Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

Cardew

hippey wrote: »

This is the first time I have looked at the UW thread, and I'm confused!

The business bit, being a discount club etc etc... I get!

But I have just looked at the generic UW internet site and attempted to get Gas & Electric prices and all it says is I will save x%! Well thats all well and good, but it didn't even ask me who my suppliers were, and I could not get a unit price for the East Midlands area nor IGTs seems odd?

Or do I have to sign up first and then find out the price?

I will reserve judgement if someone can tell me what the 'real' prices are, I'm quite willing to dig mine out and post them here to prove my point or be proved wrong!

If you post your gas and electricity consumption in kWh here, we* will give you the prices for the cheapest tariff and for UW.

(* I doubt you will get a UW salesmen helping you!!!)

The average UK account uses 20,500kWh gas and 3,300kWh electricity pa

In the East Midlands the cheapest tariff for that customer would cost £949 pa.

With UW it would cost £1,183

So UW is 24.6% more expensive than the cheapest tariff.

Of the tariffs listed in price order, UW is in 63rd position. There are 5 tariffs more expensive and they are all the so called 'Green' tariffs.

Whatever the vested interests of the UW salesmen(present and potential!) and shareholders etc, these are facts.

Post your kWh figures and see how much more expensive UW would be for your consumption.

I predict any response to this post will not address those figures.

keggs

Ypaymore wrote: »

Its a £100 credit added to their whole bill not just energy, look at it another way it would nearly wipe out a customers line rental for a year ,to go with their inclusive calls which must be worth lets say up to £100 quid a year.Thats without the potential 5% discount for shopping ,and the opportunity to refer people which will surely become easier due to the £100 credit.

Just to confirm what Ypaymore says. It's the whole bill as far as I am aware. UW doesn't separate any utility. The company are pushing multi service members which is what the club is about. I know people keep harping on about energy on here but the UW isn't an energy company. It's a service business which promote a whole range of services some are utilities - some are not.

Unfortuately, this is something that the AUWF can't get their head round.

Steve
UW Distributor & Very Happy Customer

Hope that helps.

1carminestocky

Ypaymore wrote: »

Its a £100 credit added to their whole bill not just energy, look at it another way it would nearly wipe out a customers line rental for a year ,to go with their inclusive calls which must be worth lets say up to £100 quid a year.Thats without the potential 5% discount for shopping ,and the opportunity to refer people which will surely become easier due to the £100 credit.

Very good point. I note also there's a massive distributor incentive being funded by npower to co-incide with this customer incentive. Putting on my shareholders hat for a second, I think we will see the company membership grow at an even quicker rate now. It will be interesting to see what happens to the share price once this news has filtered through....

hippey

Cardew wrote: »

If you post your gas and electricity consumption in kWh here, we* will give you the prices for the cheapest tariff and for UW.

(* I doubt you will get a UW salesmen helping you!!!)

The average UK account uses 20,500kWh gas and 3,300kWh electricity pa

In the East Midlands the cheapest tariff for that customer would cost £949 pa.

With UW it would cost £1,183

So UW is 24.6% more expensive than the cheapest tariff.

Of the tariffs listed in price order, UW is in 63rd position. There are 5 tariffs more expensive and they are all the so called 'Green' tariffs.

Whatever the vested interests of the UW salesmen(present and potential!) and shareholders etc, these are facts.

Post your kWh figures and see how much more expensive UW would be for your consumption.

I predict any response to this post will not address those figures.

Here goes with my Electric:

For August (a pretty average month)

Standing Charge:0.0092 x 31= 2.85
Units
Day 104.75 @ 0.11305 £ 11.842
Night 111.23 @ 0.09352 £ 10.402
Peak 56.79 @ 0.14248 £ 8.092

plus VAT

I am in the Central Network EM Area....

So how does this compare to UW? or anyone else.

keggs

1carminestocky wrote: »

Very good point. I note also there's a massive distributor incentive being funded by npower to co-incide with this customer incentive. Putting on my shareholders hat for a second, I think we will see the company membership grow at an even quicker rate now. It will be interesting to see what happens to the share price once this news has filtered through....

Part of the ID incentives is the doubling of points you get to qualify for free share options. This is a great incentive which all IDs whatever their goals in the business can get. Free share options paid to qualifying IDs is just one of many benefits available to distributors. I'm personally not into shares. What has always been my focus is the residual income. No other network marketing company or franchise comes close to what UWDC offers its IDs or it customers.

Steve
UW Distributor & Very Happy Customer

hippey

Also my gas:

Area is East Mids on an IGT Network paying 3.675 per kWh (inc VAT), paying on quarterly bill.

No Standing Charge, no tier 1 rate.

hippey

And to finish off the pricing:

Telephone: Orange Landline & BB £14.68 p/m Free calls Eve / Weekend on LL & Free UK & International via Line 2

Cell: Orange £30 (just over) for 700 mins & 200 text, plus unlimited Landline Calls.

So I would be interest if the likes of UW could save me $$$$$£££££ or if it's a lot of hot air and complicated discounts and promos

PS These are genuine examples, I have nothing to lose by asking the question, and I don't work for any utility company or UW!

Quentin

keggs wrote: »

One thing I've just remembered.....

No news on reducing the cost of the expensive gas & electricity that you hoped for?

It seems it needs to stay expensive to fund lots to help the recruiting side of this (non pyramid) outfit:

eg:

Join up, give them the £200 to become a rep, get 12 gullibles to join up in your first 3 months and they give you back £400!

Get people to sign up for the risky card and get paid a fiver for each one. (Compare this with the £2.50 they pay you for signing up an electricity customer)

Sign up just 12 new gullibles by Christmas and get a £200 bonus.

Get £1000 bonus for building a team under you that has 250 gullibles in it if you do it within 8 months. Oh, and a new title for your business cards "Executive Director Gold!"

(All these on top of the ongoing cut of everyone's bill)

keggs

Quentin wrote: »

No news on reducing the cost of the expensive gas & electricity that you hoped for?

Still trying it on Q. Nice try. You've no idea what I was looking for. Don't make assumptions - you can get your fingers burnt.

Steve
UW Distributor & Very Happy Customer

keggs

Quentin wrote: »

No news on reducing the cost of the expensive gas & electricity that you hoped for?

It seems it needs to stay expensive to fund lots to help the recruiting side of this (non pyramid) outfit:

eg:

Join up, give them the £200 to become a rep, get 12 gullibles to join up in your first 3 months and they give you back £400!

Get people to sign up for the risky card and get paid a fiver for each one. (Compare this with the £2.50 they pay you for signing up an electricity customer)

Sign up just 12 new gullibles by Christmas and get a £200 bonus.

Get £1000 bonus for building a team under you that has 250 gullibles in it if you do it within 8 months. Oh, and a new title for your business cards "Executive Director Gold!"

(All these on top of the ongoing cut of everyone's bill)

And your point is?

Nice bit of advertising for us though. Thanks

Steve
UW Distributor & Very Happy Customer