Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

Cardew

1carminestocky wrote: »

With respect, this thread is about so much more, Cardew. If you come on here like yourself and jimexbox do putting yourself forward as some sort of money saving guru and advising people about the best way to save money, then expect to have YOUR money saving credentials (and hence your 'right' to advise others) scrutinised! And, frankly, both you and jimexbox's credentials don't hold up to even the most half-hearted scrutiny. You admit to not using any form of cashback card to derive extra benefit from your retail shopping. Agreed? So, whilst you are berating me for, as you state, paying for expensive G&E, expect me to berate right back at you for wasting HUNDREDS OF POUNDS by not maximising the power of your retail spend.

A household so large to have a cottage that doesn't require using must have a large spend on groceries and fuel. Quentin has been claiming for months that there is a cashback card out there that beats UWs but doesn't tie you into buying UWs products. This means you can stay with your current suppliers (BG and BT) but still derive at least 5% cashback fron your retail spending. You choose not to do so. Hence you are wasting HUNDREDS a year. But you see fit to tell others how to save money. Embarrassing. Ask Quentin for a link. I dare you....

It reminds me of John Major launching his infamous 'family values' campaign - whilst he was bonking that awful Currie woman. Hypocritical. In the extreme.

Carmine,

If one were to follow your twisted logic, then Martin and his staff should reveal every detail of spending, investments, mortgages etc before offering any advice.

No poster on MSE would be entitled to comment or offer advice on any subject without a similar full disclosure.

Any advice/comment offered by any poster should be assessed on the merits of that post.

Your modus operandi is to divert any discussion away from the failings of UW by making personal attacks on any opponent.

Sad indeed.

OldGreyFox

jimexbox wrote: »

Have you even bothered reading the posts? No one is saying you offer free phone and broadband. If youuse your UW discount card significantly it is entirely possible to have a zero bill for BB and phone. You even offer add-ons if you wish and you could even make a profit.

The point I'm making, which every single UW person has avoided answering, is why use your discount on an expensive energy tariff, when you could achieve what I've outlined above. Then take a far cheaper online energy tariff.

All I get is personal insults, the best answer so far is monthly billing. What a massive intensive for me to shell out 19% more this year. Really guys you must try harder.:rotfl:

I dont recall saying i was a UW Distributor yet you reply as if i was one.

vinnyph

Cardew wrote: »

Carmine,

If one were to follow your twisted logic, then Martin and his staff should reveal every detail of spending, investments, mortgages etc before offering any advice.

No poster on MSE would be entitled to comment or offer advice on any subject without a similar full disclosure.

Any advice/comment offered by any poster should be assessed on the merits of that post.

Your modus operandi is to divert any discussion away from the failings of UW by making personal attacks on any opponent.

Sad indeed.

Cardew wrote: »

Prove it!

Detail every customer, their consumption, previous supplier, and when they changed.;)

Until then your post will remain just about the most implausible post on this board.

One thing is absolutely certain and that is that every one of your customers without a UW cashcard could obtain his gas and electricity cheaper elsewhere.

Two posts by you, almost in one breath, without pause. Seems to be one rule for yourself and the A.U.W.F. and a different rule for others. The A.U.W.F. is beckoning a dictator. By whose authority do you cast your will, your own. Just to remind you Cardew of your fallibility. You are too busy spouting your mantra manifesto to notice.

Plushchris

DMD wrote: »

Can you please inform me where I was mistaken in order that I may apologise for my error

Sure, you said you get 5% off in all those shops listed, you dont, you get 5% off of your inflated gas and electricity prices by shopping in those shops, there is a big difference.

DMD_3

Plushchris wrote: »

Sure, you said you get 5% off in all those shops listed, you dont, you get 5% off of your inflated gas and electricity prices by shopping in those shops, there is a big difference.

Ok, see your point, to make it clear, when I spend in those stores using the UW cashback card, 5% of that spend gets credited to my UW account for whatever service(s) I take from UW, and if that means that the cashback discount is more than my bill, I receive a credit in my bank account rather than a deduction.

jimexbox

1carminestocky wrote: »

With respect, this thread is about so much more, Cardew. If you come on here like yourself and jimexbox do putting yourself forward as some sort of money saving guru and advising people about the best way to save money, then expect to have YOUR money saving credentials (and hence your 'right' to advise others) scrutinised! And, frankly, both you and jimexbox's credentials don't hold up to even the most half-hearted scrutiny. You admit to not using any form of cashback card to derive extra benefit from your retail shopping. Agreed? So, whilst you are berating me for, as you state, paying for expensive G&E, expect me to berate right back at you for wasting HUNDREDS OF POUNDS by not maximising the power of your retail spend

The desperation in your frankly laughable argument is there for all to see. Please find one single post, as we all know you enjoy reading posting history, that I have ever proclaimed myself as a money saving 'guru'? If you cant find one, another apology is in order for deliberately misinterpreting me on a public forum. While on the subject of misinterpretation (or talking bollox) please find one single post where I've indicated that I myself use a cashback card? So how can I admit to something that I've never used, your logic is one of an sleep deprived individual desperate to win the argument, seriously mate, must try harder.

Can I ask you a question? Here go's anyway....

Why do you waste your hard earned discount on reducing a very expensive energy tariff? When you could effectively have free broadband and phone (sufficient spend applicable) if used against said UW products. You could even make a profit. Do you not believe that free BB/phone with UW, then a cheap online tariff for your energy would be the most prudent money saving advice you could give? Seeing that you offer 'independent' sagely advice to all and sundry against the big 6. Although oddly I've never read a criticism in your allegedly 'independent' advice of UW.

I would appreciate a lucid coherent response, devoid of the usual UW disinformation tactics. Such as insulting me, asking a question in return or posting a few emotion icons to indicate how confused you are, thanks.

vinnyph

Jimexbox,

Every day you keep telling people that they shouldn't go with UW for their energy because you claim it is expensive. You keep telling existing UW customers that they should move their energy elsewhere even though they keep telling you why they choose to stay and are happy to stay. You ask the same question over and over again claiming you haven't been answered even though you have. What carmine is saying is who exactly are you to tell people where they should go with their energy. By the fact that you are telling people where to go must mean you think you know better. If they are happy to stay and they give their reasons why disturb them or try to convince them otherwise. It's their choice is it not. If you think they are wrong to have their own choice you should expect them to think you wrong to dictate to them and state reasons why you have no say in that matter. Crying about it afterwards when you get told straight isn't what big people do.

You act like a high pressure anti salesman.

jimexbox

Please give me a link to where you claim my question has been answered and I will promptly stop asking it.

vinnyph

Jimexbox,

Here are my reasons for staying with UW as a customer including the energy.

The combined package is cheaper over the long term for gas, electricity, phone, broadband. The discounts are not just short term like with other companies because TP can afford to keep them at that level and still make profit because the company is more efficiently run. I like the simplicity that all customers get the same rates rather than 1000's of different energy rates as with the other companies. Just looking at energy alone is not important as its the combined bill that I pay.

The energy switching sites don't tell the full story and people don't realise until after they swap. The many on-line discount deals require on-line billing or discount paid after a year or exit fees, or no discount on final bill or a combination. There are way too many conditions to get the discount. Most people forget about the discount and just keep paying. The discount with the big 6 disappears within few months. Just a ploy to get people to swap. BG are on Websaver 4 now for instance.

The service is very good. I like the fact they answer straight away and the first person I speak to can deal with a number of questions relating to different services. They are highly trained and know what they are doing.

Having direct access to all my services and bills on-line is a bonus.

The company is ever improving and adding to what they provide. There are new services coming.

The cashback card means an extra discount that means in total my bill is a lot cheaper than what I could ever get elsewhere.

Why would I want to go elsewhere. The service is very good. I trust them. I have been with them for 8 years now as a customer. The price I pay in total is less than what I could get elsewhere. I do check regularly.

Let no man tell me otherwise. It's up to me. Like carmine I get cheaper with them and very happy to stay.

You have been answered now Jimexbox. Are you a man of your word.

Cardew

vinnyph,

Shouldn't you declare that you are a UW salesman - and very well connected in the company - knowing Charles personally.

Just in case any new reader thinks you have no axe to grind.!!