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Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

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  • 1carminestocky
    1carminestocky Posts: 5,256 Forumite
    Cashback Cashier
    No, it was actually the most illegal (well, probably)... :D
    Call me Carmine....

    HAVE YOU SEEN QUENTIN'S CASHBACK CARD??
  • using a Yagi doesn't have to be illegal, but the other item might be ok to own but is certainly a criminal offence to use.

    "Evil I Send" a new anagram for you sig.
  • keggs
    keggs Posts: 1,037 Forumite
    jimexbox wrote: »
    Its just that you're so aggressive in your tone that Im trying to lighten the atmosphere. You think you are right, there is nothing on planet earth that will change your mind, fine.

    I don't take kindly to people who perpetuate myths and not prepared to do proper due diligence instead of listenng to other people's myths and nonsense.

    I am right, period whether you choose to believe. I have nothing to prove. Network Marketing has been around a long time now in the same way Franchising has. People had the same attitudes to that as they do to NW and MLM. They were wrong with that as they are wrong with NW & MLM.

    As someone who has 16 books on the subject once said you don't judge anything by what it is but by what it does. It's given freedom to a lot of people where so called traditional business (which in truth isn't traditional) doesn't.
  • keggs
    keggs Posts: 1,037 Forumite
    hop-heinz wrote: »
    In my view friendship and business do not mix.
    :wink:

    That's why most distributors me included DONT contact friends and family despite what other try to make out. But if a friend asked me I will tell them. It is up to him or her to make a decision. As I said to you originally make up your own mind and don't let bigoted people either was influence you.
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    keggs wrote: »
    most distributors me included DONT contact friends and family.

    Over at the uw reps forum you bemoaned that you are unable to take advantage of the uw main technique of using your "warm" market to take advantage of the trust friends and family have in you.

    But from what you say, it seems they neither like nor trust you, so you have been forced into trying other means (eg the worthless so called "authorised survey" you cold call illegally with, and the car park trick you use to "reward" motorists who don't park too close to you)
    Originally Posted by keggs
    We are constantly told to go after our warm market because they are the people who like and trust us. Personally, I have not found this to be case.
  • keggs
    keggs Posts: 1,037 Forumite
    Forget it Quentin - I have no intention of corresponding with you. You are a broken record. When are you going to apologise with Nigewick for your appalling libellous behaviour
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Rampant Recycler
    keggs wrote: »
    Forget it Quentin - I have no intention of corresponding with you. You are a broken record. When are you going to apologise with Nigewick for your appalling libellous behaviour

    Does Quentin being 'rude' to Nigewick give you an excuse to ignore pertinent points? - How convenient?

    As pointed out earlier you seem to view UW as a religion.

    Does it matter if Network marketing is great/acceptable/awful* the bottom line is that they have indisputably some of the most expensive gas and electricity in UK - and the sales tactics encouraged/tolerated* by UW management are a disgrace.

    * - delete as required

    P.S. I assume you have given up any pretence of not posting on MSE ever again!!! - a female's prerogative?????
  • jimexbox
    jimexbox Posts: 12,480 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    keggs wrote: »
    That's why most distributors me included DONT contact friends and family despite what other try to make out. But if a friend asked me I will tell them. It is up to him or her to make a decision. As I said to you originally make up your own mind and don't let bigoted people either was influence you.

    Another classic by keggs. So if UW never advertise their product, how do UW salesmen make sales? Wear badges upside down, pretend to have heart attack in the street or tap up friends and family? None, one, two or all three? Come on keggs I realise those inspirational 'come on down' seminars look jolly good fun, but spare us the dogged party line.

    The whole concept of MLM is to tap friends/family up because they trust you and would never dream that the person in front is anything but honest. Then in turn give them the once in a lifetime opportunity to join he MLM revolution.
  • NigeWick
    NigeWick Posts: 2,726 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Debt-free and Proud!
    Quentin wrote: »
    That is not in line with the recruiting videos from uw.
    As you are well aware, the videos are done by independent people, not the company. They are aimed at people in their particular "team" and not for everybody. I was not even aware of them until pointed out on here. The company pays on sales, not recruiting. No matter how many distributors one signs up, if they do not produce, you do not get paid.

    And, as we all know from past performance, you are a liar.

    I am an Independent Distributor with Utility Warehouse and any opinions expressed here are my own and may not be shared by the company.
    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
    Oliver Wendell Holmes
  • NigeWick
    NigeWick Posts: 2,726 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Debt-free and Proud!
    Cardew wrote: »
    the bottom line is that they have indisputably some of the most expensive gas and electricity in UK
    If that is true, why don't you come up with a better deal with regards to Carmine's challenge then?
    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
    Oliver Wendell Holmes
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