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mumps

Edwardia wrote: »

I'd happily stop wearing perfume if I lived or worked with someone with an allergy, but I don't. There are a great many sweaty ppl, out there so if I walk around in a fug of Chanel No 5 on the Tube at least they don't smell so bad to me.

Getting back on topic, hmm it's strange that the people who can't afford to smoke do it and the people who can afford it, very often don't smoke.. that doesn't mean that health-damaging anti-social smoking shouldn't be taxed.

People going out to dinner are paying VAT, so are people going to cinema.

Smokers who don't live or work with you annoy you with the smell of smoke, you could kill someone with an allergy without living or working with them. Why is your smelly perfume allowed in restaurants and cinemas and pubs denying people with allergies the right to use them. Like I said, roll on the perfume ban.

A._Badger

mumps wrote: »

Smokers who don't live or work with you annoy you with the smell of smoke, you could kill someone with an allergy without living or working with them. Why is your smelly perfume allowed in restaurants and cinemas and pubs denying people with allergies the right to use them. Like I said, roll on the perfume ban.

Frankly, if everyone who had a problem with something had the right to prevent others doing perfectly normal things we would all have to wear moonsuits fed with a supply of bottled, purified, air.

The entire allergies/intolerance industry is becoming oppressive. I'm sorry if a possible allergy makes life hard for you or your husband but many of us have problems getting by and we don't seek to make life perfect for ourselves at the expense of everyone else.

mumps

A._Badger wrote: »

Frankly, if everyone who had a problem with something had the right to prevent others doing perfectly normal things we would all have to wear moonsuits fed with a supply of bottled, purified, air.

The entire allergies/intolerance industry is becoming oppressive. I'm sorry if a possible allergy makes life hard for you or your husband but many of us have problems getting by and we don't seek to make life perfect for ourselves at the expense of everyone else.

Absolutely unless you don't like the smell of smokers, like Edwardia who said, "Why should I put up with kipper-smelling chavvy smokers and their phlemgy coughs blowing their carcinogens over me when I want a drink/something to eat ? Smoking isn't justifiable and only losers do it.

Non-smoker, non-drinker and don't consume processed ready meal junk food or takeaways either. No halo though as I'm an atheist

And this from someone who, despite her wholesome lifestyle, says she was a size 22 and goes around in a fug of Chanel No 5. Oh and before she starts about her endocrine disorder, I have that problem as well, size 8 most of my life and when I was heading towards size 14 I did something about it well before doctor diagnosed the problem. News flash even if you have an endocrine problem you don't put weight on if you adjust your diet and eat what you need. Bit tough as you don't need much but that is the truth.

Just wanted to add that it is really unfair to class allergies with intolerances. Allergies are life threatening for some people so it isn't a question of making life perfect but just trying to go on living. Nobody needs to wear perfume.

A._Badger

mumps wrote: »

Absolutely unless you don't like the smell of smokers, like Edwardia who said, "Why should I put up with kipper-smelling chavvy smokers and their phlemgy coughs blowing their carcinogens over me when I want a drink/something to eat ? Smoking isn't justifiable and only losers do it.

Non-smoker, non-drinker and don't consume processed ready meal junk food or takeaways either. No halo though as I'm an atheist

And this from someone who, despite her wholesome lifestyle, says she was a size 22 and goes around in a fug of Chanel No 5. Oh and before she starts about her endocrine disorder, I have that problem as well, size 8 most of my life and when I was heading towards size 14 I did something about it well before doctor diagnosed the problem. News flash even if you have an endocrine problem you don't put weight on if you adjust your diet and eat what you need. Bit tough as you don't need much but that is the truth.

Just wanted to add that it is really unfair to class allergies with intolerances. Allergies are life threatening for some people so it isn't a question of making life perfect but just trying to go on living. Nobody needs to wear perfume.

I would be somewhere near the back of the queue of people leaping to defend Edwardia.

And no, nobody needs to wear perfume. But there are a lot of things that nobody actually needs to do yet which a tiny percentage of the population has a problem with. The allergy/intolerance question is vexed. It's unfashionable but I tend toward the view that minorities are too easily able to make life difficult for the majority these days.

Edwardia

Actually I'm fine without anyone leaping to my defense thank you, I'm quite capable of defending myself in both real and virtual worlds.

If you don't like my views on smokers that's your opinion, you're quite entitled to it.

Attacking me personally because I disagree with your opinion, is completely unfair as I have not attacked anyone personally myself. My past weight and current health problems are as irrelevant to this thread as my bisexuality. Even if you're a qualified doctor or nutritionist your views on my undisclosed endocrine system-related health problems are complete speculation and to say that because a poster on this thread went on a diet that's all I need to do, is so fatuous a remark as to be laughable.

I'm not going to quit wearing perfume on the off chance that I come across one person on the Tube who's allergic to the aldehydes in Chanel No 5.

Millions of people wear fragrances of some description every day be it in hair spray/products, anti-perspirant deodorant or perfume/aftershave.

Ninety-nine percent of the people responding to this thread will be wearing/have worn these products at some point in their lives so to be castigating me for wearing a perfume which is completely legal to buy and wear in the UK, is hypocritical. It is also completely off -thread topic. That's not to say that I don't have sympathy for the person with severe allergies, but s/he isn't my responsibility and s/he can avoid travelling on the Tube and get allergy treatment free of charge on the NHS

mumps

Edwardia wrote: »

Attacking me personally because I disagree with your opinion, is completely unfair as I have not attacked anyone personally myself. My past weight and current health problems are as irrelevant to this thread as my bisexuality. Even if you're a qualified doctor or nutritionist your views on my undisclosed endocrine system-related health problems are complete speculation and to say that because a poster on this thread went on a diet that's all I need to do, is so fatuous a remark as to be laughable.

I'm not going to quit wearing perfume on the off chance that I come across one person on the Tube who's allergic to the aldehydes in Chanel No 5.

Millions of people wear fragrances of some description every day be it in hair spray/products, anti-perspirant deodorant or perfume/aftershave.

Ninety-nine percent of the people responding to this thread will be wearing/have worn these products at some point in their lives so to be castigating me for wearing a perfume which is completely legal to buy and wear in the UK, is hypocritical. It is also completely off -thread topic. That's not to say that I don't have sympathy for the person with severe allergies, but s/he isn't my responsibility and s/he can avoid travelling on the Tube and get allergy treatment free of charge on the NHS

Buying cigarettes is also legal, lots of people reading this thread will be smokers (not me but so what) can't you see that you can avoid smokers as easily, in fact more easily, than my husband can avoid perfume? You were rude about smokers and I was trying to show you that it is give and take in this life.

You don't need to be a doctor to know that you only gain weight if you eat more than your body needs. I know it is unfair, before I went on medication I needed to stick to 500 calories a day as my metabolism was so slow but that was all my body needed. If I was eating a normal amount of food I piled on the weight. Life's tough isn't it?

mumps

A._Badger wrote: »

I would be somewhere near the back of the queue of people leaping to defend Edwardia.

And no, nobody needs to wear perfume. But there are a lot of things that nobody actually needs to do yet which a tiny percentage of the population has a problem with. The allergy/intolerance question is vexed. It's unfashionable but I tend toward the view that minorities are too easily able to make life difficult for the majority these days.

I understand your point of view, I know perfume wont get banned, I was making a point to Edwardia that she can be as offensive to some people with her fug of Chanel No 5 as others are to her with their smell of smoke.

A._Badger

mumps wrote: »

I understand your point of view, I know perfume wont get banned, I was making a point to Edwardia that she can be as offensive to some people with her fug of Chanel No 5 as others are to her with their smell of smoke.

Actually, I agree with you. As much as I dislike the smell of tobacco on people, I dislike body odour even more - garlic, too, come to that. I just get so sick and tired of control freaks calling for bans simply because they happen not to like, or approve of, something.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

I think this thread should be closed now. as it just keeps turning into anti-smoking/perfume/garlic/smells thread

The thread was about the 37p duty added to a packet of cigarettes, and the effects it would have on smokers, and our views on it.... This thread should not have been jumped unpon by the anti-smoking brigade..

If you would like a full blown debate on smoking including the smoking ban, health issues, etc then you should go over to the arms...

Edwardia.... I didnt want to read about your sex life/sexuality on a thread about the increase of duty on a pack of cigarettes on the shopping board..to me that is VERY ott.... fine i totally agree about being proud of who you are...etc but to much infomation.....

Right off to have a cup of tea and a cigarette

mumps

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Right off to have a cup of tea and a cigarette

Hope you enjoy them, I am getting ready for a birthday party this afternoon, not sure what to wear. Decisions, decisions.