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Renewables: "talking 'bout my generation"

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  • nigelpm
    nigelpm Posts: 433 Forumite
    Another nigh on 27kwh day for me. Getting boring now ;-)
  • KevinG
    KevinG Posts: 2,088 Forumite
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    theboylard wrote: »
    So, the shadow on the roof from the chimney - is that robbing me of afternoon generation and might be worth looking at optimisers, or is it nothing to worry about?
    It certainly looks like it. In the absence of micro-inverters, shading on one panel will knock the output of all the others on the same string.
    2kWp Solar PV - 10*200W Kioto, SMA Sunny Boy 2000HF, SSE facing, some shading in winter, 37° pitch, installed Jun-2011, inverter replaced Sep-2017 AND Feb-2022.
  • KevinG
    KevinG Posts: 2,088 Forumite
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    nigelpm wrote: »
    In the sense that historic isolation levels cannot determine future levels.

    To get a sensible comparison you really need to compare with other installations in your area.
    I understand that, but the PVGIS figures do seem to be updated quite regularly, I know mine have changed over time. Two different things I think rather than "arbitrary".
    2kWp Solar PV - 10*200W Kioto, SMA Sunny Boy 2000HF, SSE facing, some shading in winter, 37° pitch, installed Jun-2011, inverter replaced Sep-2017 AND Feb-2022.
  • Dodo0808
    Dodo0808 Posts: 130 Forumite
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    Best day so far...25kWh :j:j:beer:
    4kw (16X250w Sharp). Samil Solar River 3680 TL inverter.
    E.mids/SSE. 35 degree roof pitch, no shading.
  • nigelpm
    nigelpm Posts: 433 Forumite
    KevinG wrote: »
    I understand that, but the PVGIS figures do seem to be updated quite regularly, I know mine have changed over time. Two different things I think rather than "arbitrary".

    You're right. Arbitrary wasn't the right word ;-)
  • jimjames
    jimjames Posts: 18,679 Forumite
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    theboylard wrote: »

    So, the shadow on the roof from the chimney - is that robbing me of afternoon generation and might be worth looking at optimisers, or is it nothing to worry about?

    Oh, and what to do about the flying rats?! I don't want to kill them (ok, I do!), but would an airsoft gun (onbviously non-lethal) be an acceptable teaching tool to encourage them to poo elsewhere?!

    Thanks again to all! And my first 5 O :)

    Shade will definitely have an effect. I spotted a drop in our panels, then looking up to realise someone had the velux window open! Over 90 mins at the end of the day we lost 1kWh. Earlier on that would have been much more significant.

    http://uk-solarpanels.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/effect-shade-solar-panels-output.html
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • jimmyboy420
    jimmyboy420 Posts: 1,004 Forumite
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    Theboylard, are you pretty much exactly east south eastern facing?

    Looks similar to my shading from a chimney. You can see my output, with optimisers, a page back, a much smoother curve...
    3.924kWp (12X327Wp SunPower). SolarEdge SE3500 inverter.
    Surrey/SE. 30 degree roof pitch, chimney shading from mid afternoon.
  • nigelpm
    nigelpm Posts: 433 Forumite
    KevinG wrote: »
    It certainly looks like it. In the absence of micro-inverters, shading on one panel will knock the output of all the others on the same string.

    Indeed, Kevin is spot on.

    Shading is a huge problem on PV installations not using individual inverters.

    I would hope your installers made you very aware of this.
  • groovyf
    groovyf Posts: 286 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    I never got their confirmation email...

    Me neither... but I emailed them directly and a helpful person manually activated my account. Will take a proper look at what's on their website tomorrow now.
    4kWp system (Feb 2014) : 1.5 SW, 2.5 NE (16x Bisol BMO/250, Aurora Power-One UNO PVI-3.6 Inverter : pvoutput.org/list.jsp?id=29935
  • Oscargrouch
    Oscargrouch Posts: 4,393 Forumite
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    theboylard wrote: »
    Oh, and what to do about the flying rats?! I don't want to kill them (ok, I do!), but would an airsoft gun (onbviously non-lethal) be an acceptable teaching tool to encourage them to poo elsewhere?!

    Thanks again to all! And my first 5 O :)

    Just get rid of the Flying Rats.....:eek: Enjoy your dinner...Make sure though, that if you miss, you know where your projectile may land...;)

    Another Hawaii today + 1.48 O's; last time I did better than this was on the 23rd of April 2013 with a Hawaii + 1.52 O's....:D smiley-laughing021.gif
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
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