BEWARE - PS3 crippled in Euro launch

Jarlawuk

http://faq.eu.playstation.com/bc/bcGames.htm?locale=en_GB

Link for all the backwardly compatible games - apparently 72% supported now so good times ahead.

Misterel

Straying a little off topic here (I'm not planning to get a PS3, having only just bought a nice cheap PS2 for my SD telly) does anyone else think that the BluRay disc packaging and especially the PS3 game boxes looks really cheap and nasty?

I just feel that that big clear empty plastic bit at the top makes it all look unfinished, as if they didn't know what to do with it.

(I know DVDs are overpackaged and could have coped with the old CD jewel cases but the "Next gen" packages just look silly to me)

gothpunkfreak

rick_x wrote: »

Sony released a statement today stating that the final Euro-spec for the PS3 will NOT be fully backward compatible with PS2 titles like the US and JAP versions are. In order to cut costs they've removed the Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthesiser chips (PS2 chips) in the Euro model. The fact that they won't say how many titles are compatible (via software) until launch suggests it's going to be nowhere near the 98% our US and Japanese cousins have.

This news comes weeks after a pre-order campaign and does not come with any price cuts so in effect we're subsidising cheaper US and Japanese consoles with better specifications.

I've cancelled my pre-order, I strongly urge others to do so to send a message to Sony that this simply is the last straw (launch delay, more expensive than US/JAP and even EURO prices, less functionality).

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=158696

I'm not surprised they've done this, have been waiting for it to happen. I suggest too that people cancel their pre-orders, Sony are screwing with the consumer and need to see that they can't keep doing this.

For anyone itching for a new console, I recommend the Nintendo Wii - better priced and you can play all your old games.

Avs_2

I agree,
Sony have been taking it way too easy, thinking they will make loads of money off the slack work they put in on the PS3, just because of the PS2. This may well be the case, but I am not one for being loyal to Sony after they take the hard working public for a ride...

They orgininally promised full backward compatibility, now of the 72% that work, some major ones dont work well at all, and even others dont work at all.
On top of the hefty price tag, the release 1.5 years after the Xbox 360, them forcing us to go down the blue-ray route, the loss of most exclusives, the new games not being any better than the Xbox 360s............the only thing they have got is the success of the PS2.

In my opinion, Sony dont deserve our cash - they do not deserve it. They may well be alright, because there are millions out there who extremely loyal, and Sony are taking full advantage of this.

TonyTheSuperPerson

Very well said.

millwalll

Yeah I total agree I want a ps3 but wont be buying one at the price they are.This country alway get riped off with everything.
Sony should have build a game console that plays just games not does mp3, picture and so on That what computer are for. They should build a top of the range game console priced it at about £300 - £350 with a game and they would made a lot more money. What they have done is made the ps3 cheaper to build for them by removing the ps2 chip increased the price for us in Europe and said well you cant play ps2 games so you have to buy new one at £40 a time.It's just is way out or order.

markybhoy75

millwalll wrote: »

Yeah I total agree I want a ps3 but wont be buying one at the price they are.This country alway get riped off with everything.
Sony should have build a game console that plays just games not does mp3, picture and so on That what computer are for. They should build a top of the range game console priced it at about £300 - £350 with a game and they would made a lot more money. What they have done is made the ps3 cheaper to build for them by removing the ps2 chip increased the price for us in Europe and said well you cant play ps2 games so you have to buy new one at £40 a time.It's just is way out or order.

How much are they in the States and Japan would it be worth importing??

rick_x

Sony's quote of 72% back-compatability is somewhat misleading. If you check the list you will see than numersous iterations of the same game are listed (e.g. 3 different SKU's of Resident Evil 4). Here's a brilliant piece from the website UK Resistance which really sums up the situation in full

"HERE ARE THE STATS, COMPILED BY MARK, WHO HAS A LOT OF FREE TIME AT THE MOMENT DUE TO PERSONAL ISSUES:
"I've just gone through the top 50 highest-reviewed PS2 games according to Game Rankings (don't ask me how I got the time, it involves having a breakdown and being a drop-out until I'm sane again) and checked them all against the PS3 backwards compatibility lists for the new European version of the hardware."

1. Resident Evil 4 - Noticeable Issues
2. Grand Theft Auto III - Works
3. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - Noticeable Issues
4. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty - Doesn't Work
5. Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec - Minor Issues
6. God of War II - Works
7. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - Works
8. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 - Minor Issues
9. Pro Evolution Soccer 2 - Minor Issues
10. God of War - Works
11. Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence - Works
12. Burnout 3: Takedown - Minor Issues
13. NCAA Football 2004 - Not released in Europe
14. Okami - Noticeable Issues
15. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 - Noticeable Issues
16. Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 - Not released in Europe
17. Final Fantasy XII - Minor Issues
18. Devil May Cry - Works
19. SSX Tricky - Doesn't Work
20. Guitar Hero II - Doesn't Work
21. Madden NFL 2002 - Noticeable Issues
22. Guitar Hero - Doesn't Work
23. SSX 3 - Doesn't Work
24. SSX - Doesn't Work
25. Madden NFL 2004 - Doesn't Work
26. Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal - Doesn't Work
27. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time - Minor Issues
28. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - Noticeable Issues
29. Soul Calibur II - Doesn't Work
30. TimeSplitters 2 - Noticeable Issues
31. Pro Evolution Soccer 5 - Noticeable Issues
32. Shadow of the Colossus - Works
33. Madden NFL 2003 - Noticeable Issues
34. Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution - Minor Issues
35. Final Fantasy X - Noticeable Issues
36. NCAA Football 2003 - Not released in Europe
37. World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 International - Not released in Europe
38. Virtua Fighter 4 - Minor Issues
39. Tony Hawk's Underground - Minor Issues
40. Pro Evolution Soccer 4 - Noticeable Issues
41. Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando - Doesn't Work
42. Burnout Revenge - Works
43. Madden NFL 2005 - Noticeable Issues
44. NCAA Football 2002 - Not released in Europe
45. Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy - Doesn't Work
46. Winning Eleven 6 International - Not released in Europe
47. ICO - Works
48. Madden NFL 2001 - Noticeable Issues
49. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King - Doesn't Work
50. NBA Street Vol. 2 - Works
51. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004 - Works
52. NCAA Football 2005 - Not Released in Europe
53. Ratchet & Clank - Doesn't Work
54. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory - Doesn't Work
55. NBA 2K2 - Doesn't Work
56. Gran Turismo 4 - Doesn't Work
57. Tekken 5 - Works

Incredibly, Sony's OFFICIAL ADVICE includes the following line:

You should skip optional FMV sequences

UKR'S OFFICIAL ADVICE:
You should skip PlayStation3." (Source http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/)

These guys have more integrity than any of the UK games websites which all appear to be in Sony's pocket regarding the whole debacle.

Cerenia

There's 1700+ games compatable, and over 2400 ps2 games. (pity all the ones I like - Final Fantasy X-2, guitar hero etc arn't compatable)