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Attends nursery comes home with a dirty backside

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  • gosh so does anyone else on here whose child attends a nursery have their nappies returned or am i the only one.

    No, I've never heard of that before! Unless the parents use cloth nappies, of course, and then any solids would be flushed before the nappy is returned.
    OP, you do need to talk to people higher up than the nursery staff- if the preschool is run by a committee you need to speak to them, or the management if it's a company. Get the staff using the wipes and barrier cream asap (maybe you could get your GP to prescribe something if your DS is bad enough ;)) and hammer the point mojisola made about preschools and nurseries which offer nappy changing facilities.
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  • busiscoming2
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    I have never used a nursery but am horrified at the thought of having dirty nappies to take home and blue paper towel used in that way is just abuse. They are so rough, kitchen roll would be kinder!

    I'd definitely speak to the manager and failing that Ofsted.
  • mary_hinge
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    Pinklady my son is also 3.5 years and has ASD, until 8 weeks ago he had no concept of potty training and attended preschool in nappies/pull ups. we started keeping him in them for preschool but put him in pants at home and dealt with the accidents and mess as this were the only way DS could understand where wee/poo comes from and where it is ment to go ie potty/toilet. after a few weeks we made the change to pants for preschool and it is one of the hardest battles I have had ever. He would wee on the toilet but only poo in his pants, the amount of days I collected him caked in poo (even providing wipes) I have lost count.

    I made an appointment with the manager and thrashed everything out with her, good and bad points included and put together a action plan so her staff and I were all singing from the same song sheet, we had the same egg timer and same sticker chart and went through the exact same routine at toilet time and we have almost cracked it ( he is dry 80% of the time now)

    I would arrange to speak to the manager or who ever is in charge and insist they use baby wipes and clean your son properly, make it clear they do not have your consent to use blue roll and water and they would be doing this to your son with our permisson.

    I would also print out the above mention H and S regulations and take them with you about the need for safe disposable of waste products. by keeping them in rucksacks they are putting children at risk and this is very serious. The preschool should have a registered body like ofstead and I would be looking at their lastest reports and contacting them if you get no joy with the manager.

    Good luck and stay strong, I know it is a hard job to approach these problems but you must, you are your sons advocate and he is very vunerable with out you to speak in his best interests.

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  • ruby-roo_2
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    gosh so does anyone else on here whose child attends a nursery have their nappies returned or am i the only one.

    It never happened when either of my two attended nursery. The nursery disposed of the nappies. All that came home for me was a report sheet each week, to show how my children were doing as observed through interaction and monitoring, carried out by the staff.

    As another thought my youngest child had major developmental delays and was under a paediatric consultant. She arranged for him to have sessions with an occupational therapist, play therapist and speech and language therapist. They worked very closely with the nursery he attended. Even going in and working out ways to incorporate what he was doing with them into his learning at the nursery. Could this be an option for you so as your son gets the help and support he needs but without the necessity to attend this nursery as well as the mainstream one.
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  • suki1001
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    What I don't understand is, if they don't provide the correct bins for the nappies, surely the employees must use disposable gloves. In which case what happens to those? Because those have to be disposed of properly if they are using them.

    I would want to use gloves, if I was doing that job. In one place where we looked after disabled adults we had to change nappies, and we had to use aprons and gloves every time.

    So you need to find out what procedures and infection barrier methods they are using. You could supply them with cotton wool. however if the employees don't have glove, that is going to be messy. Find out their practices. Off to eat my tea now;)
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  • cutestkids
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    At the end of the day they are not fullfilling their Duty of Care to your little boy you must be very firm and insist that they use the wipes that you provide and that he is checked properly to make sure he is clean before putting a fresh nappy on.

    I would be asking for a meeting with whoever is in charge and I would be very firm about my expectations.
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  • pinkladyof66
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    i wondered if i was being pedantic at first i know they dont wipe him properly cause he always has skidmarks and his bum smells. When i wipe him he doesnt smell in the slightest and have never had skidmarks in his new nappy.
    I am so surprised at all the comments on here thanks and now know I am not wrong in worrying about this.



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  • MX5huggy
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    So I checked out nursery tonight, large hospital peddle bins in the nappy changing area with yellow medical waste bags inside, clearly mostly empty, as they had been changed to leave for the weekend.

    I know the staff ware gloves and aprons when doing them.
  • kingfisherblue
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    OP, hopefully you will be successful in toilet training your son, but a couple of pieces of information that might be helpful if it takes rather longer than anticipated. First, once your child reaches 4 or 5 (depends on the PCT), you can get nappies or pull ups for a disabled child - this may be for overnight only, or daytime as well, but it is usually a limited amount. Some areas deliver quarterly, but my PCT delivers monthly.

    Also, my council provides yellow medical waste bags for the nappies. They are collected weekly and this is a free service. I bought a flip top bin to keep outside and just pop the nappies into it. Every Thursday, I secure the top with cable ties (provided), ready for collection. The new ties and bag are posted through my door.
  • Wilma33
    Wilma33 Posts: 681 Forumite
    Do the staff have to take their sanitary waste home??
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