Daydream thread continues.....

Itismehonest

COOLTRIKERCHICK wrote: »

Ras.. I still don't understand what you mean by local law/ different legal system? and what you meant by ' I Know how to treat the lowliest staff like humans?

I think one example might be in not making all deliveries come round to the back door (a la Trademan's Entrance) - even in the pitch dark & pouring rain - like our latest incomer :rotfl:
Many incomers seem to think that country locals are all thick & should be wearing smocks & propping up gates, with a straw in their mouths.:(

lostinrates

Itismehonest wrote: »

I think one example might be in not making all deliveries come round to the back door (a la Trademan's Entrance) - even in the pitch dark & pouring rain - like our latest incomer :rotfl:
Many incomers seem to think that country locals are all thick & should be wearing smocks & propping up gates, with a straw in their mouths.:(

A British country custom I detest is people coming to the back door. This is usually because we aren't dressed to receive people (seriously, does no one else peel of yucky muddy clothes at the back door?) and the rooms near the front are tidier.


But it is what it is, and its perceived as very odd in most parts to have anything to the front door delivery or visitor wise.

Itismehonest

lostinrates wrote: »

A British country custom I detest is people coming to the back door. This is usually because we aren't dressed to receive people (seriously, does no one else peel of yucky muddy clothes at the back door?) and the rooms near the front are tidier.


But it is what it is, and its perceived as very odd in most parts to have anything to the front door delivery or visitor wise.

This isn't like that, LIR. I'm talking supermarket/furniture deliveries etc & a cottage which fronts straight onto the lane with a front door but no front garden. Plus someone who has never lived in the country.
People who know us occasionally come to the back but we certainly don't make people carry things round to the back even though it means we may have to carry things through to the back of the house ourselves.

lostinrates

Itismehonest wrote: »

This isn't like that, LIR. I'm talking supermarket/furniture deliveries etc & a cottage which fronts straight onto the lane with a front door but no front garden. Plus someone who has never lived in the country.
People who know us occasionally come to the back but we certainly don't make people carry things round to the back even though it means we may have to carry things through to the back of the house ourselves.

I make people carry stuff to the back if its appropriate. The doors are wider, the doorways higher, and there are no carpets back there.

But I ain't them to knock at the front door first!

alfie_1

Itismehonest wrote: »

I think one example might be in not making all deliveries come round to the back door (a la Trademan's Entrance) - even in the pitch dark & pouring rain - like our latest incomer :rotfl:
Many incomers seem to think that country locals are all thick & should be wearing smocks & propping up gates, with a straw in their mouths.:(

if that is an example of "local law" then i AM confused...

round here some "back doors" are by the driveway and the front door is a path away. i dont know one person who insists "tradesmen/visitors" only using a back door...:cool:

so if that is the SIN of an "incomer"...

also there are im sure a lot of "incomers/city dwellers" that have moved to the forest but as i dont know them personally i have no idea what they think i should be looking like/doing...
i have never encountered any type of "type casting"... and if i hear an accent thats not 'ampshire hog, i like to enquire with interest where they are from...

and as a "glorified cleaner" am i one of the "lowliest of workers "......??:o

Itismehonest

We usually let them load through whichever door is easiest for them. Two of the 3 doors to the front of the house are much wider than normal but all the doors at the front face the drive so make delivery mens' life easier. As it's flagstones or slates throughout downstairs the carpet problem doesn't really apply in our case.

Itismehonest

alfie_1 wrote: »

if that is an example of "local law" then i AM confused...

Yep, you're confused That was nothing to do with local law it referred to 'real snooty birks' & treating people as humans

alfie_1 wrote: »

i dont know one person who insists "tradesmen/visitors" insist on only using a back door...

Exactly my point. Nobody else round here does either.

I was a glorified cleaner for many years, too. 6 kitchens, 7 bathrooms plus all the bedrooms & sitting rooms. Never been too grand to wield a loo brush :rotfl:

Forgot to say that I hope you feel better in the morning, CTC, & that GS is soon well, rhiw.

alfie_1

Originally Posted by COOLTRIKERCHICK
Ras.. I still don't understand what you mean by local law/ different legal system? and what you meant by ' I Know how to treat the lowliest staff like humans?


I think one example might be in not making all deliveries come round to the back door (a la Trademan's Entrance) - even in the pitch dark & pouring rain - like our latest incomer :rotfl:
Many incomers seem to think that country locals are all thick & should be wearing smocks & propping up gates, with a straw in their mouths.:(

I Know how to treat the lowliest staff like humans?

Yep, you're confused That was nothing to do with local law it referred to 'real snooty birks' & treating people as humans

Originally Posted by alfie 1
i dont know one person who insists "tradesmen/visitors" insist on only using a back door...

Exactly my point. Nobody else round here does either


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Davesnave

Asleep, so missed the debate.......:o:o:o:p

The trials & tribulations of incomers are well known to me, as I started to feel them at the tender age of 8, when my parents suddenly moved me from London to some fairly rural places in Somerset, Dorset and Devon, in that order.

Somerset was fine and I had no issues whatever, despite being bussed to school and finding hens in the playground:)...that sort of thing. The kids treated me well. I felt life was different, but OK.

Dorset was dire. It was more rural, but I was used to being bussed & outside lavvies etc by then, but the other kids were just not very nice. They weren't selectively horrible to me, being far nastier with the gypsy kids, and they were also pretty vile towards anyone with a disability or weakness of any kind. The school staff weren't much better. I remember vividly being hit by a teacher for refusing cold, curdled stew at dinner time, and the joy when I realised I'd beaten her by throwing it on the floor, even though she hit me again!:rotfl: I suppose I learned to stand up for myself, but it was a lonely furrow....and perhaps someone is still walking about with two false teeth as a result, but we won't go there!

Devon was bliss after Dorset. I'd only been here 1.5 years, however, when I committed a bigger offence than being an incomer...I passed the 11+! Again, I won't go there in detail, but this time the bussing took me away from most of my mates, so I had to work extra hard as a teenager to stay accepted. I learned to live a double life and speak in two tongues. I'm sure if we'd gone to Wales it would be three by now.

Devon isn't like it was 50 years back. Our village is possibly 50% incomers, and with that high a proportion no one could generalise about them. Look at the lists of local positions held and people of all kinds are represented. I don't think where one originally hails from is an issue at all here.

But it can be different from this in Welsh speaking, rural Wales, which is why I brought up the language thing. If a high % of people are normally communicating in another language, then accommodating a non-local will be trickier, requiring effort and goodwill from the Welsh speakers. Personally, I'd rather not ask them to make that effort. I'd learn. My DW is more like you RAS; she isn't a natural language person. So, if we'd gone to Wales it would have been to more Anglicised places, and there are plenty of those, not just in Pembrokeshire.

stitching_witch

Davesnave wrote: »

But it can be different from this in Welsh speaking, rural Wales, which is why I brought up the language thing. If a high % of people are normally communicating in another language, then accommodating a non-local will be trickier, requiring effort and goodwill from the Welsh speakers. Personally, I'd rather not ask them to make that effort. I'd learn.

When we moved to North Wales 29 years ago it was very very Welsh and people 'warned' us that if you walk into a shop or pub the locals would suddenly revert to speaking in Welsh. Errr no, sorry but they had been speaking in Welsh the whole time. Why should we expect them to suddenly speak to each other in English just because we had walked in? We wouldn't expect it in any other country (Italy or Russia for example) so why expect it in Wales just because it's attached to England?

We found the locals reasonably accepting of us as we weren't holiday cottagers and we added to the local community and economy. The worst troublemaker we found was the old Englishwoman next door who caused a huge amount of trouble both for ourselves and in the village in general!