Daydream thread continues.....

rhiwfield

alfie_1 wrote: »

.....what will be will be, all the grumping in the world is NOT gonna change it..... i am gonna adapt as necesary and just bl**dy well get on with LIFE...

True, BUT , there have been some interesting questions on how to adapt. So will Mabel have to be moved or will there be a bulldozer used to dig out a pond with the spoil being used for a high ground paddock. The way I look at it planning in advance for likely misfortune is wise policy.

So if I lived on a flood plain, and couldnt move (!), I'd invest in flood protection measures for the house and/or have contingency plans as Sambucus has. And I wouldnt let Env Agency/Council assurances on flood prevention measures stop me using my own common sense.

And if the weather is going to make crop growing harder/more expensive, then either earn more money, eat less or grow wiser :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

alfie_1

rhiwfield wrote: »

True, BUT , there have been some interesting questions on how to adapt. So will Mabel have to be moved or will there be a bulldozer used to dig out a pond with the spoil being used for a high ground paddock. The way I look at it planning in advance for likely misfortune is wise policy.

So if I lived on a flood plain, and couldnt move (!), I'd invest in flood protection measures for the house and/or have contingency plans as Sambucus has. And I wouldnt let Env Agency/Council assurances on flood prevention measures stop me using my own common sense.

And if the weather is going to make crop growing harder/more expensive, then either earn more money, eat less or grow wiser :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

EXACTLY.....common sense...:D

people seem to have lost the ability to use thier eyes and ears to local knowledge [not us lot ].. with the best will in the world ,someone sat in london does NOT know what is happening in a village in the outbacks of devon etc..... but the residents of old have a wealth of knowledge...
uuuummm wonder who i listen to !:cool:

Itismehonest

alfie_1 wrote: »

EXACTLY.....common sense...:D

people seem to have lost the ability to use thier eyes and ears to local knowledge [not us lot ].. with the best will in the world ,someone sat in london does NOT know what is happening in a village in the outbacks of devon etc..... but the residents of old have a wealth of knowledge...
uuuummm wonder who i listen to !:cool:

Sadly, politicians don't tend to listen to small villages, alfie. There's not enough voters in them to matter.
For example, most decent countryside policies don't come from Labour because their vote is minimal in the countryside. (Never come higher than 3rd around here while we've been here, anyway) They put all their efforts into pleasing the more urban areas where their voters are. The countryside tends to be pretty much overlooked unless it's as part of the country's playground.

lostinrates

Not sure I agree with rural knowledge. Much of the damage has come from big scale agri and greedy sell offs by farmers.

Of course there are examples of idiocy the other way but much of the reason our land has scars is the rural use of it too. Few of us have clean hands. I don't.

Itismehonest

lostinrates wrote: »

Not sure I agree with rural knowledge. Much of the damage has come from big scale agri and greedy sell offs by farmers.

Of course there are examples of idiocy the other way but much of the reason our land has scars is the rural use of it too. Few of us have clean hands. I don't.

That does depend on where in the country you mean, though, LIR. You'd have to count out most hill farms as they've never been in the same league as the Barley Barons for big scale, sell offs etc.
Edit: Though, of course, they've had Clearances where the peasants got thrown off to make way for sheep etc.
It's the age old story that many people don't realise that our land is like it is because it's been farmed for thousands of years. There's very little natural wilderness in the UK. It's all the result of farming & land management, as you know.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

I totally agree with local knowledge

no one in the houses of parliment would have known about the past history of our mountain( well maybe the odd one or two) so they would not know about the possible outcome of all this weather locally.. alot of the local people who live directly by/on that mountain knew there was something wrong a few weeks ago, but it took the landslide for any action to be taken. I should imagine there has been some 'rush' surveys done on the rest of this part of the mountain.....

Is it me is it the same programmes being played on tv but on diff days:rotfl: bloody repeats.....

alfie_1

but the residents of old have a wealth of knowledge...

sorry i was refering to the general population not necesarily the farming communities with regard to the ie..water plains..
my old neighbours have told me the exact years that this place has flooded ! but all have said its rare and sorts itself. so going on that im not too panicked ...

ideally if we could see the future ,we could prepare. what i meant was that with the information from people who have been here a lot longer [where i live] i have taken heart that its not often and will right itself...as it has done over the last 130 yrs this house has stood...

lostinrates

Itismehonest wrote: »

That does depend on where in the country you mean, though, LIR. You'd have to count out most hill farms as they've never been in the same league as the Barley Barons for big scale, sell offs etc.
Edit: Though, of course, they've had Clearances where the peasants got thrown off to make way for sheep etc.
It's the age old story that many people don't realise that our land is like it is because it's been farmed for thousands of years. There's very little natural wilderness in the UK. It's all the result of farming & land management, as you know.

Exactly....we live in a great big man maintained park. We forget the tree cover that would have covered many of the hills too, and that the very domestication, while essential, causes imbalances however minor. Make that domestication as large scale as we have and we have a huge impact.

Bah humbug.

alfie_1

lostinrates wrote: »

Exactly....we live in a great big man maintained park. We forget the tree cover that would have covered many of the hills too, and that the very domestication, while essential, causes imbalances however minor. Make that domestication as large scale as we have and we have a huge impact.

Bah humbug.[/QUOTE]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: get yourself a large drinkypoo's LIR.....

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