iPhone -vs- Android: apps & customer service..?

thegoodman

DUTR wrote: »

So remind us, why Pingit will not work on your devices?
Or are you going to wait until you can steal somebody else's answer?

I have not rooted the Android phone to use copy software thats why. I have one iphone which is jailbroken but I do not put copy softwares on it. How would you like it if someone takes your stuff, its same the thing.

The Pingit post is let others know that it is not going to work with rooted phone,nothing to do with the copy software

Nine_Lives

thegoodman wrote: »

"WithiPhone I decided to jailbreak as I was sick of buying apps that didn'twork". This make it clear the phone is jailbroken to get fee apps.

How blind can one person be?

I get the impression you're a bit of an Apple fanboy. On that basis, i assume that you're also aware that free apps aren't the ONLY reason/benefit of jailbreaking.

Therefore to claim that it "is clear" i jailbroke my phone to get free apps is a statement only a moron or the uneducated would make. There are other benefits to jailbreaking. You just CHOOSE to accuse me of ONLY jailbreaking to steal.

But then i guess you know everything don't you.

I don’t carewhat you think stealing is stealing regardless of if you get paid apps for free from Google, apple or anyone else. I will personally not do that on any phone including Android. If I can’t afford something I will not buy

Yes, downloading apps for free when they're "paid for" apps IS stealing. I don't deny. If they work then i pay for them.
If Apple wont put in place a fair refund policy, then you do what you have to do to make the system as fair as possible.
Shoot me.
I know that wont go down well with the do-gooders of the MSE world, but get back to me when i finally care!!
I wonder how many of these do-gooders go through life without breaking a SINGLE law. How many of these people don't do 31mph in a 30mph zone etc. It's very easy to sit behind a screen & say we don't dare to 31mph because we're law abiding citizens though isn't it. Chances are anyone coming with that statement is lying.

Nobody said that i can't afford the apps. As i've paid for the TomTom app i'm sure i can afford a £1.49 app or whatever.
The fact is - why should developers and ONLY developers be protected? What about those who purchase? If it's not working as it's advertised to .... then the developer is the thief. They are selling something that isn't working.

It's a 2 way street i'm afraid, no matter what you say. It needs to work both ways. Developers can't cry about not getting paid when apps are being put out that simply do NOT work.

horngkai wrote: »

He or she has already said that he is testing the app and if they work, he or she will then pay for them to use it.

Thanks for reading what has actually been said.

Guys_Dad wrote: »

Is it not possible that OP jailbroke his Iphone as he felt that in its original form it was network software that was preventing his legally purchased apps from working?

The fact that you can change fonts, themes & all the rest of it was a nice bonus too.

Nah, who am i kidding?! I jailbroke because i wanted to STEAL & don't let anyone tell you otherwise. TGM said i did it ONLY to STEAL, therefore because TGM said it, it MUST be true!!

baby_frogmella wrote: »

OP, whilst jailbreaking itself is not illegal it certainly is illegal to download from installous - irrespective of whether you intend to eventually buy the app or no. Its a bit like nicking a dvd from a shop and then after getting caught, you tell the police that after watching the DVD you planned to return it back to the store :rotfl:

As for the iOS apps not working properly...read the app store reviews BEFORE buying the apps. Personally i've not had a single issue on my iphone 4S with apps but i can understand some apps may not work properly with iphone 3GS especially if not running iOS 5.

As i said above - shoot me.

Why should developers get ALL the protection? It's wrong. I'm doing what i have to do to make it a fair 2 way street ...... which is what it SHOULD be anyway. In the real world, there are measures in place to protect both seller & buyer.
Not with Apple & apps it seems. I don't agree with this! I'm not asking any of you to agree with me, and to be quite honest, i don't care. I'm doing what i'm doing because it's my view that this is making it a fair 2 way street.

Although thanks for bringing up the app reviews as i forgot to address that earlier...

What a load of tosh!! From reading reviews, my conclusion is a lot of reviewers seem to get a buzz out of scoring "down" apps. If i went off reviews, there's so many apps i would NOT buy. However, as i've just outright bought them or tried them out first, the mass of 1 star reviews are totally incorrect IMO.
The Nectar app for example (ok it's free, but that's not the point) - a load of people were scoring this a 1 star. Their reasons were stupid.

That's just the first app that comes to mind. There's plenty of others, but to go through them 1-by-1 would be time consuming & pointless.

If you think that the same paid-for apps on iOS will be free on Android then think again! Do you really think that apps like Tom Tom, Cut the Rope etc will be free on Android?

Please don't get like TGM by not reading my posts.

I never said that i expect free apps on Android.

In fact if you read my posts (like TGM hasn't) then you'll see that i'm not looking for free apps.

To make it clear, i'll put it in a nice pretty colour so people can't get it twisted - all i'm looking for is a policy to make this fair - a refund policy, a PROPER -fair- refund policy in place for apps that don't work, UNLIKE what Apple seem to operate. There we go, nice and pink. It can't get lost now.

Humphrey10 wrote: »

You can get refunds from Apple for non-working apps. Report a problem with the app: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1933
Are you saying that you have reported the app using this process, saying the app is non-functional with your non-jail broken iPhone, and you are not getting a refund? What's the response from Apple when they refuse to refund you?

I'm surprised you've had so many problems with apps. I've got 23.5gb of apps on my iPhone and 48.9gb on my iPad, all of which work. A couple of them have required the iDevice to be restarted before they would work the 1st time, and a couple have been made non-functional by updates but have been fixed with a new update a couple of days later.

That is exactly what i am saying.

The most recent one that springs to mind was Neg's soundboard. It crashed every time i loaded it up.

I always try a phone restart & i always check the iOS compatibility.

What do Apple say? Well, they don't. I get no response from them, and yes that has been the method i've used.
They have only ever issued a refund ONCE. It was a few years ago, but i think the reason i applied was a double purchase.

thegoodman wrote: »

It is illegal to download paid apps for free for testing the app or not.

I don't care. It should be illegal to sell something that doesn't work!

Regardless of what some say I will never agree to or encourage illegal activity.

I don't know whether you drive or not, but if you do, i'm wagering that you've done 31mph in a 30, 51mph in a 50, 71mph in a 70 etc.
But now you'll likely tell me you either A) don't drive or you are a good honest citizen & have never broken a SINGLE law in your life. :rotfl:
It's an easy thing to say when it can't be proved either way, but we all know the chances. And you don't agree to illegal activity? If you're going to select one, at least select A), because will just make me laugh TOO hard!!

Choice is simple if you dont like the way app store works or its policy move to a different brand.

Ah yes, let's just all avoid the issue, that's how things get solved in real life isn't it.
Let's just allow developers to sell faulty products. Let's not implement a REAL refund system.

baby_frogmella wrote: »

And are you defending the OP's use of cracked apps? You think two wrongs make a right? I sympathize with OPs problem but he should get in touch with the developers (many of which welcome feedback on their apps), I strongly suspect he is using iOS 3 or 4 which could be the main cause of his problems - iOS 5 should run fine on iphone 3GS and from my experience 99% of apps run fine on iOS 5.

2 wrongs don't make a right, you're correct.

But ignoring a wrong & allowing it to continue isn't right either.

From my experience, developers like to ignore you. I've tried getting in touch. No answer.

And just so it's known, i'm running a 3GS on 5.0.1

krisdorey wrote: »

Also I know that if one of my apps crashes on a persons device who has purchased via appstore then Apple refund and deduct the monies from my monthly sales. They are very much on the purchasers side which confuses me as to why the OP has trouble getting refunds if he submits the crash report as Apple request.

It's like the review system isn't it -

One person will say one thing, another will say the opposite.

You've had good experiences of refunds, i haven't.

thegoodman wrote: »

The OP have given the reason for jailbreaking the device.

ReasoN is singular, suggesting there is only one reason for the jailbreak.
Your statement is incorrect. YOU gave YOUR reason for my jailbreak, because it ties in nicely with your approach to this thread.
I have now corrected you.

The OP need to grow up and stop taking other peoples work for free, its theft.

You need to learn to read.
And as you're crying so much over illegal activity ... as i said before, i dare bet that you have done something illegal in your lifetime. I dare bet that everyone (or at least the vast majority) of people on the message board has done SOMETHING illegal in their lifetime. Even the most do gooder that i know has dome SOMETHING illegal.
So don't take the moral high ground on law.

As one of the post said if you are not happy with the way app store works move on to other device.

And if you don't like what i'm saying, then go find another thread to whinge on. You're not going to change my mind, and i know i wont change yours, so what's the point in this coming from you?? What is the real point?? Tell me. What are you hoping to achieve??

No need to stealling someone else's work.

No need to sell something that doesn't work. No need to refuse a refund on something that doesn't work.

So no I am not going to apologise to OP, I feel my view is correct and I will stick to it. Its wrong to

I'm not looking for one. We all feel are views are correct, and i dare bet that most peoples views, especially on the tinterweb where egos are exaggerated, will NOT change.

Anyway, this has taken too long to reply to, so that'll do for now.

thegoodman

K_P83 wrote: »

I don't know whether you drive or not, but if you do, i'm wagering that you've done 31mph in a 30, 51mph in a 50, 71mph in a 70 etc.
But now you'll likely tell me you either A) don't drive or you are a good honest citizen & have never broken a SINGLE law in your life. :rotfl:
It's an easy thing to say when it can't be proved either way, but we all know the chances. And you don't agree to illegal activity? If you're going to select one, at least select A), because will just make me laugh TOO hard!!

Yes I do drive:

Is a speeding a criminal offence?
It is a conviction for your license records and certainly serious speeding convictions that result in a ban (i,e which you would normally get for doing well fast like 60-70+ in a residential 20-30 limit or well over 100 on a motorway but its not treated as an actual 'criminal' convicton the same way as like THEFT, robbery, deception, assault, fraud, manslaughter, rape, murder, shoplifting.

What you are doing is criminal offence under THEFT.

DUTR

thegoodman wrote: »

I have not rooted the Android phone to use copy software thats why. I have one iphone which is jailbroken but I do not put copy softwares on it. How would you like it if someone takes your stuff, its same the thing.

The Pingit post is let others know that it is not going to work with rooted phone,nothing to do with the copy software

Let me remind you of your thread title
"Barclays Pinglit android app do not work with rooted os"



So it seems once again you are telling lies to get yourself out of a hole that you dug for yourself, why did you not inform the readers that it would not work on a jailbroken apple device?

DUTR

thegoodman wrote: »

Yes I do drive:

Is a speeding a criminal offence?

Yes it is as it is a breach of the law.

Nine_Lives

thegoodman wrote: »

Yes I do drive:

Is a speeding a criminal offence?
It is a conviction for your license records and certainly serious speeding convictions that result in a ban (i,e which you would normally get for doing well fast like 60-70+ in a residential 20-30 limit or well over 100 on a motorway but its not treated as an actual 'criminal' convicton the same way as like THEFT, robbery, deception, assault, fraud, manslaughter, rape, murder, shoplifting.

What you are doing is criminal offence under THEFT.

Are you for real?

You can play on words all you wish.

Bottom line is - it is against the law, end of. Forget about the punishment that follows, it is against the law. Piracy is against the law. Rape is against the law, murder is against the law, theft is against the law.

Dress it up however you wish, but bottom line is, "against...the...law".

And well done at not answering my question. What are you hoping to even achieve here?

23n1th

thegoodman wrote: »

Yes I do drive:

Is a speeding a criminal offence?
It is a conviction for your license records and certainly serious speeding convictions that result in a ban (i,e which you would normally get for doing well fast like 60-70+ in a residential 20-30 limit or well over 100 on a motorway but its not treated as an actual 'criminal' convicton the same way as like THEFT, robbery, deception, assault, fraud, manslaughter, rape, murder, shoplifting.

What you are doing is criminal offence under THEFT.

I'm not going to comment on your other posted pish, but I had to comment here.

You are a moron. Speeding is a crime you idiot. I would suggest yet again doing a little research before you type absolute !!!!. Speeding is a CRIME under the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 section 89.

grumbler

DUTR wrote: »

thegoodman wrote: »

Is a speeding a criminal offence?

Yes it is as it is a breach of the law.

No. It is a breach of the law, but it is not a criminal offence.

Just being pedantic, as usually.

DUTR

grumbler wrote: »

No. It is a breach of the law, but it is not a criminal offence.

Just being pedantic, as usually.

And there was me thinking only criminals went to jail :eek:
perhaps thegoodman will read your reply and steal it as it were his own reply :rotfl:

grumbler

To add confusion I have to say that "Causing danger to road users" is a criminal offence.