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  • LadyMissA
    LadyMissA Posts: 3,263 Forumite
    Would be - if it was not true.... LOL
    lots of people tell you that but I say that's just as bad as pretending you CAN do something. You should never have to lie about what you can and can't do to get a job.
  • gettingready
    gettingready Posts: 11,330 Forumite
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    If you lie at the point of applying for a job - you would have to lie through being on the job... and I am sorry, I refuse to play dumb blonde, I have roots ;)
  • LadyMissA
    LadyMissA Posts: 3,263 Forumite
    If you lie at the point of applying for a job - you would have to lie through being on the job... and I am sorry, I refuse to play dumb blonde, I have roots ;)
    yeah what do you do when someone says 'today I am going to show you how to do so and so', do you play along like you have no idea what they are talking about? Hmmm
  • LisaB85
    LisaB85 Posts: 2,008 Forumite
    edited 19 February 2012 at 1:59AM
    fawd1 wrote: »
    If you know that Sage is easy to learn, and positions you are looking at require it, and there are courses available (or a library where you can get a book to teach yourself) would it not perhaps be sensible to get yourself trained up? You say the course is 12 hours long. 2 days part time and you'd be able to honestly say you are trained? seems a no brainer to me.

    A course starting in MAY 8 hours split over 4 weeks, read will you before patronising. A course will give me something to prove I have learnt what I need to know which employers want to see.

    'I read a book on sage' won't really cut it with employers nor will the jobcentre pay for the software needed for me to learn so waiting for a course is the best option.
  • gettingready
    gettingready Posts: 11,330 Forumite
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    LadyMissA wrote: »
    yeah what do you do when someone says 'today I am going to show you how to do so and so', do you play along like you have no idea what they are talking about? Hmmm

    ... and try VERY hard not to take over and show THEM how THIS thing is done PROPERLY....

    Nah, could not do that...
  • gettingready
    gettingready Posts: 11,330 Forumite
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    LisaB85 wrote: »

    I had to learn 2 government systems in the past so why can't other companies give someone that little bit of extra training.

    Because they (JC) much prefer to push people into Tesco or Poundland [STRIKE]slavery[/STRIKE] "work experience"

    JC will not fund any course that is worth something in the real workplace.

    Employers wil not take on as a "trainee" anyone over the certain age.
  • seven-day-weekend
    seven-day-weekend Posts: 36,755 Forumite
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    edited 19 February 2012 at 7:46AM
    LadyMissA wrote: »
    Not at all. I think its when you have been out of work 13 weeks you have to apply for jobs at NMW, that is a fact or you are restricting yourself.

    Surely only if you are not able to fulfill your jobseeking requirements with higher paid jobs?

    For example if you have to apply for five jobs a week and you apply for five at £40k a year (:rotfl::rotfl:), you don't have to apply for minimum wage ones as well?

    I agree that if only NMW jobs are advertised, then you should apply for them.
    (AKA HRH_MUngo)
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  • Rupert_Bear
    Rupert_Bear Posts: 1,303 Forumite
    And I would not.

    I did not spend years training/getting to where I was before losing my last job to now, at my age start looking at NMW jobs, sorry.

    Sorry not the right attitude.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    LadyMissA wrote: »
    Some of these people you mention who take low paid jobs have no choice as they can't do anything else.

    You obviously do not get it do you? I have 20 years accounts expereince and am applying for jobs all levels of jobs and jobs at NMW and do not get interviews with these companies as I am over qualified for the roles.

    Here is just one example:

    One reply I had the other day was I didn't meet the criteria so I asked for a bit of feedback, maybe I lacked experience etc and this was the reply
    '


    Unfortunately we don’t have any suitable vacancies for which you could be considered as you have a CV that would put you a little over qualified for the role we are advertising for. This particular position involves a lot of copying, faxing and scanning.

    We will however keep your details on file for a period of 6 months and contact you should a suitable opportunity arise in the future.'


    To which I replied (after already telling them I had 20 years exp) '

    I applied for the role of Bought Ledger and I have many years experience in that so I thought it would have suited me well. I can use the photocopier, fax and scanner.'

    How do you suggest someone gets a job if people wont interview them?

    I am totally on your side here. My response was more to the other poster (Getting ready) who believes they should not have to even consider lower paid employment due to their qualifications and will not even apply. But is prepared to go on taking the state handouts in the meantime.
  • falko89 wrote: »
    Does that actually happen?

    Yes!

    It is always easier to get a job when you are in employment as opposed to when you aren't.
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