Barclays Pinglit android app do not work with rooted os

DUTR

thegoodman wrote: »

Due to the type of work I do I have most of the phones iPhone, android phones, windows phone and can chane to any depending on the day if need to. I try to use all os to the point what most customers will do with the phone.

Surprising that your work would dictate that you have to use a non Apple handset .

Guys_Dad

grumbler wrote: »

I am amazed that people need apps for everything. Even if they developed it I'd hardly ever use it simply because I prefer a computer at home and I don't want to carry a PINsentry card reader on me.

I would never use my mobile phone for banking or other transactions that, in truth, work best on a larger screen, so I am with you there. Simply because of the screen size and the heightened chance of losing it.

However, as Tablets and Android netbooks become more dominant in the market place, I would happily swap my Windows 7 netbook for an Android tablet, except for the problem that it wouldn't do nearly all I want to. If only the Android browser allowed me 99% of the Windows facilities, I would swap over willingly.

thegoodman

DUTR wrote: »

Surprising that your work would dictate that you have to use a non Apple handset .

Everyone will have their preferred device. Nothing against any OS, more OS is always better for consumers. What I am against is a company trying to shift the burden of security on to its users when ways are available to protect them. Same with Windows OS, you can understand in 80’s and 90’s the technology was not available to make Windows safe from doggy software, now it is and it should not be up to the users. The MS got away with it due to high market share and no choice, this is changing now. No OS is 100% safe but when hole in safety is found the company in question should work hard to make sure device / OS is made safe.
It is a cat and mouse game but the cat needs to be in the front at leat 90% of the time. Also remember now day’s computers and phones are tools for most people not device where one can send a whole weekend trying to do things.In the early days of PC I have nearly spend a week tyring to build a working PC.
The work do not require me to install Barclays app or most of the other apps but I am very interested in workings as if I was a user of that device, this I do in my own time and also have some fun with them. My post here got nothing to do with the work, only personal findings. It is not my job to change the companies or way their operate but if I find something which can cause problem or shift the blame to customers rather than company taking the responsibility I will make sure others know about it. This is true for any company let it be Apple, MS, Google, Samsung or anyone else. If the hold in the OS or device is found and the company in question own up to the problem and say we have a problem here, we are trying to get it sorted as soon as we can, to me this is fine as long as update or positive outcome is reached in timely manner, never pass the problem to its users.

With iPhone 4 signal issue it was wrong for Apple to blame its users in the beginning due to way the phone is being hold but correct to give the free grip or offer refund. The device is already in the market so nothing can be done but let’s find a way to overcome or reduce the problem for users.

The one factor I am not too worried about is the price of a device, you have a choice to pay or not. However once you have made a purchase the companies should look after its users and never blame them for problem with the device or way it works. I know this do not always work but as long as it works for most users its fine. You will always get someone who will do something with their device to make it do which is not design to.

23n1th

I can remember when chip and pin first came out and I completely refused to use it preferring cash. I use it all the time now. I felt the same with online banking but again use it all the time now.

I can imagine using this in the future but not now. I don't trust banking on my mobile full stop and refuse flat out to do it. Its the apps I've downloaded (games, etc) more than the phone OS I don't trust. I've read an article (notice trollman I said read) yesterday about a similar thing being used all the time in Kenya as most people don't have bank accounts. Maybe it will catch on.

Trollman its obvious why you really started this thread.

DUTR

thegoodman wrote: »

Everyone will have their preferred device. Nothing against any OS, more OS is always better for consumers. What I am against is a company trying to shift the burden of security on to its users when ways are available to protect them.
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The work do not require me to install Barclays app or most of the other apps but I am very interested in workings as if I was a user of that device, this I do in my own time and also have some fun with them.

My post here got nothing to do with the work, only personal findings. It is not my job to change the companies or way their operate but if I find something which can cause problem or shift the blame to customers rather than company taking the responsibility I will make sure others know about it. This is true for any company let it be Apple, MS, Google, Samsung or anyone else.

[more waffle snipped]

With iPhone 4 signal issue it was wrong for Apple to blame its users in the beginning due to way the phone is being hold but correct to give the free grip or offer refund. The device is already in the market so nothing can be done but let’s find a way to overcome or reduce the problem for users.

The one factor I am not too worried about is the price of a device, you have a choice to pay or not. However once you have made a purchase the companies should look after its users and never blame them for problem with the device or way it works. I know this do not always work but as long as it works for most users its fine. You will always get someone who will do something with their device to make it do which is not design to.

You say you have nothing against any OS but yet you feel it necessary to broadcast negativities against the strongest rival to iOS.
You do not need to instal Pingit so why be concerned that it will not work on a rooted device, the designers had already closed a possible security loophole, so are looking after their consumers.
As you mention it is not your job to guide the MFRS but yet your posts seem to deem it your job to guide the consumers.
I'm surprised you reminded us of the grip of death embarrasment, yet you did not create a post slagging off the iphone for such a schoolboy error , one would expect it from a budget poorly designed product, but as you like to portray Apple as the benchmark, I'm glad others surpassed that standard immediately.
Yes people can pay their monies and have a choice, remember many many users do not choose an iphone not through lack of funds but purely through lack of desire for it for a whole host of reasons :cool:

DUTR

Guys_Dad wrote: »

I would never use my mobile phone for banking or other transactions that, in truth, work best on a larger screen, so I am with you there. Simply because of the screen size and the heightened chance of losing it.

However, as Tablets and Android netbooks become more dominant in the market place, I would happily swap my Windows 7 netbook for an Android tablet, except for the problem that it wouldn't do nearly all I want to. If only the Android browser allowed me 99% of the Windows facilities, I would swap over willingly.

I use mobile banking , more often it is to quickly check the account for one reason or another and usually when I am not near to a PC and do not require all of the functionality.
I still use my linux mint netbook when at work instead of using the works PC.

23n1th wrote: »

I can remember when chip and pin first came out and I completely refused to use it preferring cash. I use it all the time now. I felt the same with online banking but again use it all the time now.

I can imagine using this in the future but not now. I don't trust banking on my mobile full stop and refuse flat out to do it. Its the apps I've downloaded (games, etc) more than the phone OS I don't trust. I've read an article (notice trollman I said read) yesterday about a similar thing being used all the time in Kenya as most people don't have bank accounts. Maybe it will catch on.

Trollman its obvious why you really started this thread.

Yes chip n pin all the way now, not had chance to use the contactless payment thing, some places have a minimum spend £3 at Greggs.
I loaded the pingit for novelty as above usage the account I would prefer to tie it too is my Halifax* as opposed to my barclays. But I do like the fact that with just my chosen 5 digit pin I can check my balance easier than via the mobile site.

*The app is only available to Barclays current account customers at the moment, but a second release due in March will enable non-Barclays current account customers with smartphones to use the service.

thegoodman

DUTR wrote: »

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I'm surprised you reminded us of the grip of death embarrasment, yet you did not create a post slagging off the iphone for such a schoolboy error , one would expect it from a budget poorly designed product, but as you like to portray Apple as the benchmark, I'm glad others surpassed that standard immediately.
Yes people can pay their monies and have a choice, remember many many users do not choose an iphone not through lack of funds but purely through lack of desire for it for a whole host of reasons :cool:

As I have said when Apple said the problem is to do with the way you hold the phone was wrong but later correct to offer refund or grip to overcome the problem. I like all companies who like to look after their customers not blame them for the problem. If Android or Widnows Phone followed the same steps I will use that as a main device. You can understand if problem is caused because of jailbreak (iPhone) or rooted (Android) os, this is your choice you dont have to do either. Wrong to make a point to say jailbreak / rooted os is safe and than blame the user if somthing go wrong because of it.

The google is correct in response to the problem with the Google Wallet in the USA, it knows it can be hacked easy and already working on the changes to make it safe. its impossible to release any proudct with 100% safety.

thegoodman

DUTR wrote: »

Yes chip n pin all the way now, not had chance to use the contactless payment thing, some places have a minimum spend £3 at Greggs.
I loaded the pingit for novelty as above usage the account I would prefer to tie it too is my Halifax* as opposed to my barclays. But I do like the fact that with just my chosen 5 digit pin I can check my balance easier than via the mobile site.

*The app is only available to Barclays current account customers at the moment, but a second release due in March will enable non-Barclays current account customers with smartphones to use the service.

Back to the main point, slowly this will replace the cash and one day might even replace the credit cards. The google wallet and other products are also coming out soon.

DUTR

thegoodman wrote: »

As I have said when Apple said the problem is to do with the way you hold the phone was wrong but later correct to offer refund or grip to overcome the problem. I like all companies who like to look after their customers not blame them for the problem. If Android or Widnows Phone followed the same steps I will use that as a main device. You can understand if problem is caused because of jailbreak (iPhone) or rooted (Android) os, this is your choice you dont have to do either. Wrong to make a point to say jailbreak / rooted os is safe and than blame the user if somthing go wrong because of it.

On the whole I do not like handset cases as they spoil the lines of the device, the ip4 4s has a nice look , so a silly case on it to make it functional is a no no for me, I do have a low profile case on my wildfire and Ray both of which are unintrusive to the look of the handset. The fact they have denied instalation on certain devices is preventing a problem before it can occur, after all like you say one does not have to jailbreak or root a device, and if the user chooses that, they choose the consequences and 'benefits' that go with their choice.

23n1th

DUTR wrote: »

I use mobile banking , more often it is to quickly check the account for one reason or another and usually when I am not near to a PC and do not require all of the functionality.
I still use my linux mint netbook when at work instead of using the works PC.

Good chioce of linux BTW, I've LMDE XFCE on my laptop.

Yes chip n pin all the way now, not had chance to use the contactless payment thing, some places have a minimum spend £3 at Greggs.
I loaded the pingit for novelty as above usage the account I would prefer to tie it too is my Halifax* as opposed to my barclays. But I do like the fact that with just my chosen 5 digit pin I can check my balance easier than via the mobile site.

*The app is only available to Barclays current account customers at the moment, but a second release due in March will enable non-Barclays current account customers with smartphones to use the service.

I'm just overly security concious, and whilst I'm sure its safe I don't want the extra hassle if I lost my phone or it was stolen. Google Wallets problems just reinforce my view on this. I refuse to use NFC on a card or phone for this reason.