MSE News: 'I'm on benefits but I'm no scrounger'

Flyboy152

jo_be wrote: »

Why doesn't his partner work? Her condition is treatable and most people with it are capable of working?

:j:T:j:T:j

CONGRATUALTIONS!!!!!

YOU ARE THE HUNDRETH PERSON ON THIS THREAD TO HAVE IGNORED THE ARTICLE!!!!!!!

Flyboy152

alexcross wrote: »

the thing is if you mention people coming into this country for whatever reason you are classed as racist and the government refuse to be seen as racist. If you mention the MP's claiming expenses then you are accused of saying the mp's don't do an important job. you mention the growing number of pensioners and your ageist so to in order to make the cuts they have to they jump on the only people they are still allowed to discriminate against and get away with it.

That's because, if you try to blame people, for the ills of society, on the basis they are from other races, odds are that you are actually a racist.

Flyboy152

~Jem~ wrote: »

I get fed up hearing the race card. If you weren't born in Britain, no matter what background you're from, you shouldn't be entitled to come here and get a ridiculous amount of help.

How much help do these awful foreigners get? When do they receive it? How much help should they get?

Australia don't let one and all in, they have incredibly strict rules and they don't get slated for it?! This country has been too soft for too long and infortunately it seems there is no way back.

What is the immigration criteria for Australia? How much time have you spent studying Australia's immigration policy? What relevance does it have, compared to the UK's society? How much colonialism did Australia partake in over the last thousand years?

Flyboy152

~Jem~ wrote: »

I really think there is too much generalising going on in this post. I have moaned about 'dole scum' on several occasions, but by that I mean the riff raff that you see on shows like 'Coppers'. The type that constantly commit crime, take drugs etc etc.

But then again I recently read about a couple that won some few million on the lottery years ago, and because the guy had a disibilty and DLA isn't means tested, they still get something like £500 every 6 months.

Now I'm sorry but that IS scrounging. Apparently they said 'were entitled to it and we put it to good use' or along those lines.

Really? You can't take a few thousand of your millions and put that to use instead?!

Overall the problem seems to be that there are a few that see benefits as a lifeline to help them along. It's the people that see benefits as a way of life that are the scroungers!

We all know who were on about when you hear the term scrounger. The type of person that has never worked, their parents probably didn't work and their kids will probably never work either. Why would they? They get eveything they need to live a comfortable life so there is no motivation to do otherwise.

What benefit do they get that pays them five hundred pounds every six moths? Who were these people?

Dognobs

People also forget that if you OWN your home that you bought when you had a good well paid job. if you are now on a low income you WON'T get any HB so you are down on money as you will have to use and benefits you get to help pay for the mortgage. I live in a ex-council house and talk to my neighbours, many have worked but lost there job but if they live in a council house they are laughing! I was talking to one neighbour and he is the same position as when he was working, still has a car and says he now has no worries about paying the rent etc. Gets better rates on gas and electric and loads of other handouts and helps free school dinners etc. THIS IS WRONG!! The only reason I bought my house was to provide a better home for my kids we had a 1950's kitchen, Blow air heating, no double glazing, a rotten bathroom. All of which I replaced now (just before the council done a whole refurb!!!) THE FACT IS People now see it as a choice.

We now live in a iWant society and everybody else has to pay.

NOBODY on benefits are POOR they just have different ways of budgeting! Most live from day to day but so do most people who earn there money.

I think we need to adopt a “Paid In Rule” Depending how much you have paid in in the past is how much you get.

Flyboy152

oldnewhand wrote: »

At first my sympathy did go out to this man and his family and then I did get a bit hacked off with his whinging about how hard it was and all the other ailments within his family group. If the £11000 p.a. was what he actually had to live on he should be perfectly fine. As a pensioner (with occupational pension too) we live very comfortably on this amount OK it's only the 2 of us but we have all we want; but then we are content to enjoy what is around us and free.
I was "on the dole" for a short period but didn't feel judged or mistreated by anyone. Our daughter and her husband claim benefits due to low income and also DLA for their daughter. Their only gripe is with the benefits office regularly miscalculating and accusing them so every transaction they get copied and file for evidence; this is sheer inefficiency not judging. Son in law has just been laid off and has found himself better off than when he was working but he is still applying for jobs and has interview Friday.
I get really annoyed that I pay taxes that help to pay benefits to people on minimum wage - minimum wage should not need subsidies from pensioners especially when it is often large businesses that pay those peanuts. This brings me to my other gripe - yes overhaul benefits, hang fraudulent claimants out to dry but also bring down the bigger cheats, the affluent tax dodgers.

That's the flipping point. :wall:

Paul_Herring

Flyboy152 wrote: »

How much help do these awful foreigners get?

£50,000 a year. At least. Said to have had £1.5 million so far. And that's just one family.

Paul_Herring

Flyboy152 wrote: »

What benefit do they get that pays them five hundred pounds every six moths? Who were these people?

Disability Living Allowance. And it's not £500 every six months Mr O'Shea is getting; it's £500 every month

Flyboy152

CazGreg wrote: »

The only thing that confuses me about this article is the lack of mention of his prognosis. From what I can work out, his condition is treatable, even if there is a later chance of recurrence. Living on a small amount for a short while is very different to living on that same amount for the foreseeable future.

And as has been already said - all those NHS travel costs can be claimed back, often cash in hand on the same day.

Not always all of them and not always the full amount.

smk77

Flyboy152 wrote: »

You may work "in Council dept," :huh: but you don't work in the housing office, do you? I can guarantee you that, on release, prisoners do not automatically get housing benefit, based purely on the fact they are ex-offenders. If they get housing benefit, they get it because they would be homeless, if they didn't and they are subject to the exact same rules as anybody else. If they were homeless, they would be sent back to prison, because of local authority by-laws preventing rough sleeping and vagrancy. I would have that that someone working "in Council dept" would have known that. Do you think it is easier for an ex-offender to re-offend if they are homeless, or homed?

A council has a legal responsibility to provide temporary accommodation to certain groups if they are homeless.

If a prisoner was released and had no place to stay then the local authority would consider them as in 'priority need' and more than likely put them in homeless accommodation.