MSE News: 'I'm on benefits but I'm no scrounger'

Muad_Dib

What a load of nasty people on here. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

It states he is on DLA and Incapacity Benefit. I assume that is it as he does not say he get's anything else. He may not be eligible for anything else. Why are you all assuming he gets other things as well. If this is what he gets he maybe on lower DLA which is more than likely Divide the 11000 by 13 he gets £846 every 4 weeks.

Could you support your family on that. He will have to pay electric and gas, Council tax, TV Licence, Food, Car tax and insurance if he is allowed to drive or swap £50 a week to get a disability car. etc, etc etc. He would not get the cold allowance that pensioners and people on social security get.

Their are so many people willing to bash claimants but what about those that come over here and are paid £26000 a year without even a blink and they have never put anything in to the system. These are the one's that should be sorted. They all go to the top of the list I know that as I have friends in the areas that deal with this. I can go on but just in case I say something that we are all thinking I will stop here.:mad:

smk77

jgordon wrote: »

He could very easily begin his own eBay business, or some kind of online business. Maybe this will require startup capital but businesslink/ government grants are available.

Just a question - would that affect benefits? I'm not saying that people shouldn't go self-employed in fear of losing benefits but would it be possible to end up worse off by being self employed?

I wonder if Ross has been on the 'Up Your Income' forum?

smk77

Paul_Herring wrote: »

Stop being professionally offended on behalf of others.

A significant number of posters have pointed out, for example, that if £11K is all he's getting at the moment, then he's probably not getting all the help he's eligible for.

If that's the case then I would have thought Martin and his team of experts would have realised this and told him before allowing the article to be published. Otherwise it makes them look like a bunch of fools!

Flyboy152

zigzigzag wrote: »

I don't understand why you're harassing me - as I said, I wouldn't shop them because they are people I love, but sometimes people you love do things you don't agree with. Obviously it depends on the nature of the offence, but for this sort of thing on balance I would feel crappy shopping them. Does that mean I condone it - absolutely not. They, like you who think that £11k after housing is not enough to live on, live in a world of entitlement - thinking that the world owes them not just a living, but a very good living.
If you would shop your family and friends for this sort of thing, that's your business.
Anyway you are completely missing the point I was making, which was that it is untrue to say that benefit cheating is a myth or a rarity. If I know this many people who do it, I would think that it is widespread.
Goodbye!

How many "benefit cheats" are there?

Flyboy152

FishOnTwoWheels wrote: »

Just as has already been said, many people only include what they get in their hand as the amount they received in benefits, forgetting the £1,500 a year in Council Tax, the £10,000 a year in rent, the free prescriptions, eye tests and glasses, plus dental check and treatment. The last three going into hundreds of pounds per year. I take home less than £11,000 a year and everything has to come out of that. If those who are conning the system were as serious about finding work as they claim to be, they would either have to move somewhere cheaper or lower the lifestyle but why do either when you can sit on yer !!! and live where you want in the UK at someone else's expense?

So, you don't get any help on top of that? No child benefit, no housing benefit or council tax benefit? Not tax credits either?

Flyboy152

Ducklet wrote: »

I'm on ICB & DLA as I spend most of my time in a wheelchair following a car accident 20 years ago (I was a nurse), that resulted in over 50 fractures to my head & face, arms, chest & leg. I can't use my hands & leg much at all. I find it very humiliating and degrading, so know what Ross Goodall means! I do voluntary work 1 morning a week at the hospital as a ward visitor in the chaplaincy team. Because of the head injuries I battle with depression and my short-term memory is affected too - which can be very difficult - and not just for me.. My husband is now on state pension & worked 8 hours a week up until Christmas, which he has to reduce following a heart attack. I hate being on benefit, but have no choice. I'd far rather earn my own living.
I've seen many people I know claiming benefit fraudulently, but no-one's done anything even after they've been reported.. It makes me feel very angry, especially when I see my single-mum daughter working long hours to support her children by childminding, and my son & daughter-in-law with two children working full-time, but still can't afford to buy their own homes..
I feel for this chap, but wonder if he needs a benefit check?

How do you know it has been reported and nothing done? How many people have you seen fraudulently receiving benefits?

Flyboy152

robpw2 wrote: »

people on IB or ESA do not get free prescriptions free dental etc they are only for those who get income based benefits. they can apply for a hc2 but the reasons for refusal or often baffling trust me .

i do not know if dla entitles you to free prescriptions

No, it doesn't.

Paul_Herring

smk77 wrote: »

If that's the case then I would have thought Martin and his team of experts would have realised this and told him before allowing the article to be published.

It's not unknown for an article to be posted without any apparent editorial oversight. In fact it happens fairly regularly in the news service - articles are simply copy/pasted from Reuters or the PA without any additional commentary.

Otherwise it makes them look like a bunch of fools!

Well, quite.

Flyboy152

susiesae59 wrote: »

Yes sure as I work in Council dept and we looked it up it`s offensive that with all governments they treat prioners better than pensioners. They chose to break the law so why should they be not made to have to gain shared accomodation, yet my daughter who cannot help suffering with mental health she is being pressured to move out of her 2 bedroomed home to shared accomodation or a bed sit, nothing ever seems fair because it isn`t.

You may work "in Council dept," :huh: but you don't work in the housing office, do you? I can guarantee you that, on release, prisoners do not automatically get housing benefit, based purely on the fact they are ex-offenders. If they get housing benefit, they get it because they would be homeless if they didn't and they are subject to the exact same rules as anybody else. If they were homeless, they would be sent back to prison, because of local authority by-laws preventing rough sleeping and vagrancy. I would have thought that someone working "in Council dept" would have known that. Do you think it is easier for an ex-offender to re-offend if they are homeless, or homed?

Another thing that frustrates me they told my daughter at the council "If you had a baby you could then get full housing benefit" this is being exploited enough already young girls choosing to get pregnant to get a house and to not have to sign for work till they are 5 and then when they are 5 they have another baby.

Rubbish! The housing office wouldn't tell her that, because it would be true. I thought you worked "in Council dept," surely you would have looked it up for her? How many single parents are under the age of twenty?

When these young girls leave school they don`t want to go to college they don`t want to stay on at school and this is the only way they are entitled to income so they opt to get pregnant,

How many girls do you personally know, who have done this?

so surprised this as not been seriously looked into we have lots of single girls with babies in my area yet to be fair they are not really single this is where I assume lots of benefit fraud is taking place in this area. My daughter does not want this option she as all on looking after herself let alone a baby.

How many people are receiving benefits fraudulently? Or are you just listening to far too much Daily Heil propaganda?

Flyboy152

leedsmodus wrote: »

perhaps if this country didnt let all and sundry in then we would have more social housing. I know of one religion which actively goes abroad to their home nation to marry their own race, then their wife / husband comes over here and the population increases yet again, they have children whom do the same when they become adults. Then there are those whom are from eastern europe whom have kids in their own country but because they work over here our silly system allows them to claim child benefits, even though their kids are in eastern europe. our benefits system is a joke

Oh yes! Because that is the reason why we are in this mess.:wall:

Problem solved, we can all go home now.