380,000 now on the dole, Including Housing benefit

Carl31

380,000 that could be helping towards society in return for benefits.....

The_White_Horse

Carl31 wrote: »

380,000 that could be helping towards society in return for benefits.....

hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Carl31

The_White_Horse wrote: »

hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

you being sarcastic?

Skinnymoo

I don't claim to understand it all, but I was wondering if say European Nationals can come here and claim benefits can we do the same? Go to France or Poland say and claim benefits, and if not because of those countries finances/benefit systems why not, is it not very one sided, are we the only country that allows this and is it down to the EU?

kabayiri

WhiteHorse wrote: »

A year or so ago, the Labour Party admitted opening the gates in order to create and exploit the immigrant vote.
..

But it was clearly stated in the Nu Labour manifesto!

(on page 591)

(in microfiche)

(in white ink on white paper)

It really annoys me when these parties come in on 30% of the people vote and implement things they never really campaigned on.

I don't remember being asked if I wanted Britain to become a mini version of the UN?

I don't remember being asked if we should pay for billions of capital projects on PFI credit, just because it 'looks cheaper' on paper.

We really do need a tick box on the ballot paper which says in effect "I think you're all a bunch of w*nkers". They wouldn't put it on though, it'd be far too popular.

Economic migrants should be transient, coming here to do a job, and then going back when the job is no longer there. That is migrants from anywhere, going anywhere.

FTBFun

WhiteHorse wrote: »

A year or so ago, the Labour Party admitted opening the gates in order to create and exploit the immigrant vote.

That is a conspiracy.

Do you have a link? I thought this would have been widely reported.

Optimist

Skinnymoo wrote: »

I don't claim to understand it all, but I was wondering if say European Nationals can come here and claim benefits can we do the same? Go to France or Poland say and claim benefits, and if not because of those countries finances/benefit systems why not, is it not very one sided, are we the only country that allows this and is it down to the EU?

If in the EU then a UK national can claim benefits on the same basis as a national of the country you move to.

That said many of these countries tend to have much stricter rules for their own nationals i.e. some you have to have paid tax into that system for a specific time. Plus the benefits may not be quite as generous as the UKs

They also do not make it easy if you do not speak the language of that country.

So the answer to your question is a qualified yes.

The_White_Horse

Carl31 wrote: »

you being sarcastic?

no. these people contribute nothing compared to what they receive.

unless you meant, they should be contributing in return for their benefits - in which case I agree.

but better they don't get any.

The_White_Horse

i don't know why there is not a 10 year ban on getting any benefit at all - including education. this way genuine people or those with jobs will be the only ones coming.

Carl31

The_White_Horse wrote: »

no. these people contribute nothing compared to what they receive.

unless you meant, they should be contributing in return for their benefits - in which case I agree.

but better they don't get any.

yeah i meant contributing, we are on the same page

doesn't have to be much, 1 day a week helping out in the public sector somewhere will benefit them and everyone else