Nice people thread part 5 - nicely does it

Wheezy_2

zagubov wrote: »

I'm hopeless. Plants are a mystery to me (well identifying them anyway).

Me too, but I have an excuse being a 'furrener'

Sow thistle, shepherd's purse and hairy bittercress are not exactly words used in daily conversations and it's not something we learnt at school.

When I hear or read these words I realise my English knowledge still has huge gaps.

So when we discuss plants and flowers at home, we talk about "the one with the big greyish leaves and purple flowers"

lostinrates

Wheezy wrote: »

Me too, but I have an excuse being a 'furrener'

Sow thistle, shepherd's purse and hairy bittercress are not exactly words used in daily conversations and it's not something we learnt at school.

When I hear or read these words I realise my English knowledge still has huge gaps.

So when we discuss plants and flowers at home, we talk about "the one with the big greyish leaves and purple flowers"

Dh ha s taken to gardening in recent years. Means i am having to use more latin.....that way it means something to him and he is constantly amzed what is related to each other.....as am i often.

He likes to use a name, but his favourite think of all is a relatively common geranium, johnsons blue, he often calls out yo be that he is just going to chek on johnsons blue....

Wheezy_2

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Live Eurovision commentary can be found here tonight and Saturday guys!

CK

We still have to watch Tuesday's semi-final, it's taped on the freeview recorder.

That's how we watch Eurovision. We never watch it live, always recorded. Zap through all the yapping inbetween until we see a country flag appear, then watch 30 seconds of the song, mutually agree it's crap and zap to the next one.
You can watch a 2.5 hour program in 20 minutes that way.

zagubov

Wheezy wrote: »

Me too, but I have an excuse being a 'furrener'

Sow thistle, shepherd's purse and hairy bittercress are not exactly words used in daily conversations and it's not something we learnt at school.

When I hear or read these words I realise my English knowledge still has huge gaps.

So when we discuss plants and flowers at home, we talk about "the one with the big greyish leaves and purple flowers"

Well the same happens here. What I grew up calling a turnip and a swede are the other way round in London, and the flower we call a bluebell in Scotland's a different plant from the bluebell here.

lostinrates

I still struggle to use 'cleavers' for sticky weed. Its sticky, its a weed.....

lostinrates

Davesnave wrote: »

So are some of you saying we should return to the days when all the special needs kids were tidied away into their own schools?

I'm all for specialist teaching, but I like to see it alongside the 'normal' run of the mill stuff, so the kids learn to rub along with their fellows wherever possible. Yes, there can be conflicts and friction, but I see that as educative for all concerned. Children are remarkably good at coping with others' challenging behaviour, when they understand the reasons behind it.

Of course, I recognise it's a spectrum, but many of the special kids I met turned out to be not that demanding, if their needs were met. Quite often, I was able to use the support teachers for more than just looking after those particular kids, bringing others into the frame, so having them there benefited all.

I would also worry about people like my niece whose diagnosis has given her help but also an inaccurate self image.


I think it depends on the child. I am all for inclusive society, but some childrens needs are not met my mainstream teaching.....not just because they might be further along a spectrum, but because the environment might not enable the fostering of particular talent. I combined a 'specialist school' with mainstream private. I know i was happier in specialist, where everyone had an odd but talented background, where it was normal to miss school for work, different eductation or whatever. Mainstream school didn't kill me, and was of course, good in otherways, but nor did it do much for Me, as opposed to me as one of the children. Of course, the ideal is a school, and they do exist, where all the children are their own Me and seen as such, but i do not think they are as common as we like to think, and less common still than lots of teachers seem to say.

SingleSue

Davesnave wrote: »

So are some of you saying we should return to the days when all the special needs kids were tidied away into their own schools?

I'm all for specialist teaching, but I like to see it alongside the 'normal' run of the mill stuff, so the kids learn to rub along with their fellows wherever possible. Yes, there can be conflicts and friction, but I see that as educative for all concerned. Children are remarkably good at coping with others' challenging behaviour, when they understand the reasons behind it.

Of course, I recognise it's a spectrum, but many of the special kids I met turned out to be not that demanding, if their needs were met. Quite often, I was able to use the support teachers for more than just looking after those particular kids, bringing others into the frame, so having them there benefited all.

At one point, when we were struggling with the normal education system, I wanted nothing more than for the boys to be in the correct setting, which at that time, just happened to be one of the specialist schools. Youngest son actually spent two terms at a specialist autism school until they discovered that far from being slow, he was actually hyper intelligent and thus, not allowed to stay there.

In his time at that specialist school, he came on in leaps and bounds and was showing the potential he has, something which he struggles with in the mainstream sector to this day, even with a very high level of support and a specialist teaching area. The setting doesn't suit him, the constant moving about the classrooms unsettles him and the hustle and bustle of a mainstream high school completely freaks him out.

Middle son spent 4 terms at a behavioural unit (this followed 1 year of private tutors after being permanently excluded from his primary school) but unlike youngest, once he hit high school, it was his turn to come on in leaps and bounds...weirdly, the setting of a normal comprehensive high school suits him.

So, in my view, for some children, a specialist setting is better for them to reach their full potential, whereas for others, a normal mainstream education with good support is better.

SingleSue

vivatifosi wrote: »

I would so love to be school librarian at an establishment like that! It would be so rewarding. We could have a good selection of Barrington Stoke books for the dyslexics, some very short and attention grabbing novels for the ASD kids and walls and walls of non-fiction for the aspies. The school librarian could know what they all like and help them choose books that they like with a bond of trust.

Very much looking forward to the Summer Reading challenge which starts over again in a month or so. With the autistic kids they tell their parent the answer to the questions that I ask and the parent tells me; with the aspies I get told a lot of regnal dates and plane types. I love it because the experience is totally different.

With youngest you would be treated to a story which combines Star Wars, Wall-e and Apple products...he would only read books on those items too. He wouldn't answer a question though, even through me...you would be a non person until you have been on his radar for about 4 years

With middle son, he would probably give you guitar tabs and recite all the birth and death dates of various rock stars :rotfl:

GDB2222

CKhalvashi wrote: »

T’link don’t work

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Here it is again!

I’m off to do something useful

CK

Linky includes your postcode. You may want to remove that.

Wheezy_2

Off to the Red Lion for a pint or two :beer:

See you all soon!