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DWP Recruiting Again - 2012

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  • gettingready
    gettingready Posts: 11,330 Forumite
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    john539 wrote: »
    EOs are meant to be manager jobs for experienced people.


    On THAT salary?

    :eek::eek::eek:
  • Esoog
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    On THAT salary?

    :eek::eek::eek:

    And people wonder why Civil Servants strike over having their pensions ruined. The facts and figures are out there for everyone to see; 35,000 (7%) civil servants are paid less than £15,000 a year and 40.5% of civil servants – 210,000 people – are paid £20,000 or less. 63% of civil servants – 330,000 staff – earn less than £25,000 a year. Unless you're into senior management and above; the CS is not a very well paying employer. I know a woman who has worked for the CS for 21 years and she gets paid £20k (obviously that's her fault in a way for not chasing promotion etc)
  • john539
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    edited 24 January 2012 at 9:01PM
    Killmark wrote: »
    That would make it 22 applicants per post (if my calculation is correct).
    Do you mean 220 ?

    Wasn't it about 5 areas of 50 jobs ?
  • Esoog
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    AOboy wrote: »
    Weird to be back on here again after sooooo long for yet another DWP recruitment campaign!

    Here's a link to some useful info on the recruitment from the PCS union

    http://www.pcs.org.uk/en/department_for_work_and_pensions_group/dwp-news.cfm/id/05FDBA06-1CA0-4A16-9BD22E32B9FF74B7

    Interesting;
    • 1,200 staff will be recruited through the external recruitment exercise, though this number may include internal applicants who are also able to apply to this exercise
    So not many really from outside the DWP "sphere"
  • drwho2011
    drwho2011 Posts: 346 Forumite
    Esoog wrote: »
    I know a woman who has worked for the CS for 21 years and she gets paid £20k (obviously that's her fault in a way for not chasing promotion etc)

    In many cases promotion is dead mans shoes.

    Having said that I knew plenty of EO's who wouldn't go for promotion because it meant leaving Final Salary schemes and going onto the Defined Benefit ones.

    Looking at whats happening now and in the future it looks like they would have been better off going for promotion.
  • drwho2011
    drwho2011 Posts: 346 Forumite
    edited 24 January 2012 at 9:04PM
    john539 wrote: »
    Do you mean 220 ?

    They were looking for circa 1200 EO's.

    50,000 / 1200 = 41.6r
  • Esoog wrote: »
    And people wonder why Civil Servants strike over having their pensions ruined. The facts and figures are out there for everyone to see; 35,000 (7%) civil servants are paid less than £15,000 a year and 40.5% of civil servants – 210,000 people – are paid £20,000 or less. 63% of civil servants – 330,000 staff – earn less than £25,000 a year. Unless you're into senior management and above; the CS is not a very well paying employer. I know a woman who has worked for the CS for 21 years and she gets paid £20k (obviously that's her fault in a way for not chasing promotion etc)

    Since my FTA ended last June I have found it very difficult to find a job that matches the EO salary that I was on, as well as the flexibility I had as a single parent.

    I currently work for a large successful Department Store and earn almost half of what I was earning in the Job Centre, I also don't qualify for the company pension for 2 years, I work long hours and most weekends, I find it very difficult to get the time off I need to be with my children.

    A junior manager starts on about £16000 a year, therefore the public sector really isn't that bad.
  • Esoog wrote: »
    Interesting;
    • 1,200 staff will be recruited through the external recruitment exercise, though this number may include internal applicants who are also able to apply to this exercise
    So not many really from outside the DWP "sphere"

    I read that with interest too. So there are even less jobs available than I thought. :eek:

    My husband has worked for CS for 25 years - he has been promoted from AO to EO in that time. For the past 3 pay reviews he has had his pay frozen. He has NEVER reached the top end of the pay scale.
    Only major benefit for him is flexible working hours, annual leave and pension.

    I worked for DWP for 8 years - AO then EO. I NEVER reached my pay scale max either. The starting pay advertised for these jobs is virtually the same rate I was on when I left 4 years ago! :p
  • john539
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    drwho2011 wrote: »
    They were looking for circa 2200 EO's.

    50,000 / 2200 = 22.7
    That many, wasn't it about 50 EOs per area, that is incredible.

    I must have been mistaken.

    Sounds like they want a new broom for Universal Credit.
  • drwho2011
    drwho2011 Posts: 346 Forumite
    john539 wrote: »
    That many, wasn't it about 50 EOs per area, that is incredible.

    I must have been mistaken.

    Sounds like they want a new broom for Universal Credit.

    London district's were 50, most others 100. I have readjusted based on the PCS article though so 41.6r to 1.
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