When does extended breastfeeding become weird....

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

I don't think you were being rude to me. I hope it didn't come over I did. I thought we were having a conversation from different sides, with different POV. I do fail to see where rudeness came in.

But I think it's time I bowed out of this thread for good.

Sincere apologies,it must be me who is prickly:o. I'm not feeling great so perhaps I am grumpy/sensitive. Culpa mea.

POPPYOSCAR

lostinrates wrote: »

Sincere apologies,it must be me who is prickly:o. I'm not feeling great so perhaps I am grumpy/sensitive. Culpa mea.

Lostinrates that is not like you to be grumpy - hope you are ok.

shirlgirl2004

Shepherd1 wrote: »

Seems like an awful lot of children are feed on way or another for comfort or to keep them quiet . May be this is why there are so many obese children .

Did you not see the report on the BBC today that breast fed babies appear to be cranky and cry more?

QUOTE: "And the reason formula babies are so serene could well be because they are overfed. "

This is what the baby weight charts show too. Upto 3 months breastfed babies put on more weight than bottlefed babies ater that bottle fed babies are likely to be heavier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16492490

Person_one

thatgirlsam wrote: »

So you really beleive that women should 'have to' breastfeed?

I usually agree 100% with everything you say P-1.. I am shocked that you think like this!

I think some people aren't quite reading my posts right, sorry mygirlsam because I usually agree with you too!

What I'm saying is that I would love it if by some miracle there was a fundamental shift in the way everybody thinks about breastmilk vs formula.

For an example you'll know a lot about, think about elective caesarians. Most women who get pregnant assume from day one that 'Plan A' best case scenario is to give birth vaginally but they accept that there is a chance things may go awry and they'll need a caesarian. We don't have women deciding at the 12 week scan that labour will be too painful, or too unpredictable for their lifestyle, or that they don't want their vagina to be for anything except sex so they'll have a caesarian.

I'm sure there are women who think that way but the medical and midwifery professions certainly don't encourage it and (correct me if I'm wrong) the NHS doesn't generally fund or support this choice.

So I'd love to see a situation where breastfeeding as plan A was considered as normal and unquestioned as giving birth. Where the artificial/intervention option is only considered when for whatever reason Plan A isn't possible.

Is that clearer?

I'm not saying that tomorrow we should ban formula, but I do hate the fact that the feeding of babies has created a hugely profitable industry and that its had such an influence over the way breastfeeding is viewed.

Person_one

poet123 wrote: »

She is clearly not alone judging from the thanks that post attracted. However, I wonder how that squares with being a feminist and believing that woman should have autonomy over their own bodies?

Abortion, Rape etc, etc, if you force a woman to breastfeed you are tacitly condoning other "assaults" on her body. Anything which is done to or expected of a woman's body against her will is wrong, end of. You cannot condone one and be against another.

Who said force? I think you are deliberately misreading my posts because you disagree with my stance on other issues.

POPPYOSCAR

Person_one wrote: »

I think some people aren't quite reading my posts right, sorry mygirlsam because I usually agree with you too!

What I'm saying is that I would love it if by some miracle there was a fundamental shift in the way everybody thinks about breastmilk vs formula.

For an example you'll know a lot about, think about elective caesarians. Most women who get pregnant assume from day one that 'Plan A' best case scenario is to give birth vaginally but they accept that there is a chance things may go awry and they'll need a caesarian. We don't have women deciding at the 12 week scan that labour will be too painful, or too unpredictable for their lifestyle, or that they don't want their vagina to be for anything except sex so they'll have a caesarian.

I'm sure there are women who think that way but the medical and midwifery professions certainly don't encourage it and (correct me if I'm wrong) the NHS doesn't generally fund or support this choice.

So I'd love to see a situation where breastfeeding as plan A was considered as normal and unquestioned as giving birth. Where the artificial/intervention option is only considered when for whatever reason Plan A isn't possible.

Is that clearer?

I'm not saying that tomorrow we should ban formula, but I do hate the fact that the feeding of babies has created a hugely profitable industry and that its had such an influence over the way breastfeeding is viewed.

I think some posts have unfairly 'put words in your mouth'.

I might not always agree with you but I do get where you are coming from on this.

Shepherd1

Bottle feed or breast feed doesnt make a difference to me I am talking about toddlers being given food to comfort them. I have seen plenty of bottle feed toddlers sitting in buggys with a bottle. I think it is a case of convenience for both

POPPYOSCAR

Shepherd1 wrote: »

Bottle feed or breast feed doesnt make a difference to me I am talking about toddlers being given food to comfort them. I have seen plenty of bottle feed toddlers sitting in buggys with a bottle. I think it is a case of convenience for both

Do you think this is wrong then?

Person_one

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

I think some posts have unfairly 'put words in your mouth'.

I might not always agree with you but I do get where you are coming from on this.

Having read the rest of the thread, apparently I believe rape is ok and that we should go back to the days of malnourished babies and backstreet abortions, which is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read even on MSE! So with that, I'm out.

POPPYOSCAR

Person_one wrote: »

Having read the rest of the thread, apparently I believe rape is ok and that we should go back to the days of malnourished babies and backstreet abortions, which is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read even on MSE! So with that, I'm out.

You have been around long enough to know this happens all the time on here- I am surprised you have let it drive you away though.