When does extended breastfeeding become weird....

JBD

thatgirlsam wrote: »

Do you really think that in the 'good old days' women breastfed quite happily without a hitch?

In the 'good old days' babies were fed water, condensed milk, evaporated milk, cows milk etc if the woman couldn't breastfeed

You should take off your rose tinted glasses!

My grandmother fed my father all of these things, and breastmilk too

And all this 'ideal world' stuff is just silly, we don't live in an ideal world

Exactly. My ex husband is 53, he was fed exclusively on silver top milk [ie ordinary milk delivered by the milk man] from a week old. His nephews and nieces were fed on carnation in the 70's and 80's.
Many babies were weaned onto Farex and babyrice form as young as 2 weeks old.
I think it's quite funny when people think everyone was breastfed for years on end before formula was introduced.
And if formula became only available on prescription then I am sure that some mothers would return to these practices, rather than breastfeed.

Lotus-eater

lostinrates wrote: »

That's probably how the mums who choose to breast feed older children feel too.

We all have different peramtrs, and I think it's ok to maintain them yourself while being tolerant of others differences. Feiw, I used to take care of kids a lot , and my nieces lived with me when toddlers and there mum was I'll, so I have had toddlers feeling tired and grumpy, even if not a mum...and it was really hard balancing it while a student, working and not being the person whose decisions things ultimately were about that sort of thing....

Well if that's the reason people keep BF, it's a hell of a poor reason.

I think you are suggesting I am not tolerant of others choices, which I haven't said at all.

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Well if that's the reason people keep BF, it's a hell of a poor reason.

I think you are suggesting I am not tolerant of others choices, which I haven't said at all.

Re your first point, that's exactly how I feel about giving kids food in the supermarket, you see.

Re the second, no not at all, I'm more thinking about myself, and how I need to be always making sure i am mindful of being tolerant, because it doesn't come naturally to me all the time....

Lotus-eater

lostinrates wrote: »

Re your first point, that's exactly how I feel about giving kids food in the supermarket, you see.

Nothing like the same.

You can't say I'm continuing BF just in case some time arrives when I might be caught short with a screaming baby.

Yet, say every 2 months you are caught short, forgetting to bring a smoothie, or rice biscuit, or water to keep the kids busy while you are shopping, then why not use what you are going to pay for anyway?

I'm sure you would prefer to see a quiet kid sipping a smoothie, rather than a screaming one, in a supermarket?

Shepherd1

Seems like an awful lot of children are feed on way or another for comfort or to keep them quiet . May be this is why there are so many obese children .

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Nothing like the same.

You can't say I'm continuing BF just in case some time arrives when I might be caught short with a screaming baby.

Yet, say every 2 months you are caught short, forgetting to bring a smoothie, or rice biscuit, or water to keep the kids busy while you are shopping, then why not use what you are going to pay for anyway?

I'm sure you would prefer to see a quiet kid sipping a smoothie, rather than a screaming one, in a supermarket?

To me the distinction is less clear than it is to you tbh.

I did just type out why but then decided it was probably not terribly tolerant in short, while screaming kids hurt the eardrums like nothing else can I also feel learning to wait, or indeed parents learning to avoid that situation of hungry kids out where possible, and frankly other shoppers showing some tolerance for what is a stage we have all been through ourselves, is a better option. I have known some children who have almost trained their parents by screaming as they enter the supermarket aisle containing what they fancy, and to me it's very similar, a parent calming an older child with a breast or a bit of food...and a very different situation with an older child, so yes, while I Might struggle to remember it at the time, I would prefer it...but it's not my choice.


Are you a bit prickly these days lotus, why would you think I was being rude to you? I'd hope you knew by now it's not really my style to pick fights.

lostinrates

Shepherd1 wrote: »

Seems like an awful lot of children are feed on way or another for comfort or to keep them quiet . May be this is why there are so many obese children .

Well, not just poor esting patterns, which are debatable...some people feel grazing is better, but socially its not always possible...I think it's the entitled and perhaps lack of personal discipline. I am not imagining it's easy at all though. I'm pretty sure for every pitfall you avoid the swing and roundabout puts you I another though.

Fwiw, I guess my parents were quite old fashioned, they didn't approve of any food on the go at all....nothing eaten in the street or anything like that.

Lotus-eater

Shepherd1 wrote: »

Seems like an awful lot of children are feed on way or another for comfort or to keep them quiet . May be this is why there are so many obese children .

I resent that most deeply if you are talking about what I said.
Kids don't understand, until they are older that they have to top up with food or drink before they go anywhere. You can say till you are blue in the face to go to the toilet, have a drink, eat something, take your coat..... but it doesn't work like that in real life I'm afraid.
If you have a child who is thirsty, they are thirsty, telling them to wait, might work for a while, or if they are older, work, but if they've for example just been playing hard, yet won't drink at home, then you forget to take water with you, or it's their time for a rice biscuit, then they need it. Or they are miserable and thirsty/hungry, some will then cry out in their misery.
That's what kids do.

Training parents as LIR's says below, is something completely different.

lostinrates wrote: »

To me the distinction is less clear than it is to you tbh.

I did just type out why but then decided it was probably not terribly tolerant in short, while screaming kids hurt the eardrums like nothing else can I also feel learning to wait, or indeed parents learning to avoid that situation of hungry kids out where possible, and frankly other shoppers showing some tolerance for what is a stage we have all been through ourselves, is a better option. I have known some children who have almost trained their parents by screaming as they enter the supermarket aisle containing what they fancy, and to me it's very similar, a parent calming an older child with a breast or a bit of food...and a very different situation with an older child, so yes, while I Might struggle to remember it at the time, I would prefer it...but it's not my choice.


Are you a bit prickly these days lotus, why would you think I was being rude to you? I'd hope you knew by now it's not really my style to pick fights.

I don't think you were being rude to me. I hope it didn't come over I did. I thought we were having a conversation from different sides, with different POV. I do fail to see where rudeness came in.

But I think it's time I bowed out of this thread for good.

Shepherd1

I havae an 8 year old child and have never once taken anything off a shelf in a supermarket to feed her despite doing my shopping with her every week. We would have our meals at a table not in the aisle of a supermarket and an hour without food or drink is not going to kill anyone.

ClareEmily

My son is now 15 months old and I still breast feed him twice a day, morning and evening. During the day he obviously has food, and water from a tippee cup. He used to BF every 2 hours when a tiny baby then every 4 hours, and once on solid foods I gradually dropped the milk feeds during the day and replaced with water and things like yoghurt, cheese, cows milk on cereal etc.

However I would ideally like my boobs back SOON been saying this since he was 6 months old, but he still wants it, it is still doing him good, and apart from the BITING I will probably carry on a while longer, will he ever self wean??? He will not drink cows milk and never took to formula.

Many people don't know that I still BF at all, only when we are over friends and we may stay for tea, then I feed him (upstairs) before the car journey home then he can be placed straight into his cot. I do get snidey comments then though. My hubby has been great though and is really supportive.

BF-ing does have its uses, as he woke at 5am this morning, I gave him a quick feed, and he went straight back down until 8am, and didn't want another feed until this evening.

I used to hate breastfeeding when out and about, even had to do it behind a tree on one occasion. But now that time is like a distance memory, he is growing up so fast.