THREATS by TENANT

tbs624

milky_ wrote: »

The answer is YES, YES and YES. i am not in the wrong here, i can't predict the mental state of these two people, you say my behaviour was threatening? okay. i am not going to get into this. thanks you.

Thanks for your response - it is of course your prerogative to "not get into this" . Note, however, that I *asked* about your own behaviour rather than stating what it was and that's because it can be as relevant as the behaviour of the Ts.

I was interested that you should query "does the fact they are non-uk residents have any affect on their rights?" over on LLZ . You now presumably know that the same LL& T laws apply to them as to any other T in Eng/Wales ( & ditto criminal law if they have committed a crime)

I hope your daughter achieves an early re-occupancy with support from a locksmith and attending TRO and/or police officer and that you manage to reach a suitable resolve via the appropriate service of notices/court order. As posted before, take up your complaint, about the Ts apparent threats,directly with the police, in writing.

milky_

i APPRECIATE all the responses and advise i have received but some comments have been quite harsh, like 'why u posting here' and saying that i have been threatening to the TENANTS? reallyyyy?? how am i suppose to react, and to be honest i think i have been quite reserved.

i was under the impression this was an open forum where i could ask for advise regardless if i have seen a solicitor or posted in a another forum, someone may have gone through something similar and offer some insight..i guess i got it wrong!

jamie11

Having thought about this a bit, I believe your daughter should make a complaint to the housing department that she has been locked out of her home, it is their responsibility to then sort out the persons responsible. You should continue to pursue the police for the threatening behaviour.

Can you honestly tell us that you did nothing to precipitate the situation? I am not being judgmental but it does seem very strange behaviour to just blow up like this.

milky_

WhiteHorse wrote: »

Put your complaint to the police in writing. State that you think the tenant is mentally unstable and that you fear that not only might she burn the hosue down, but that she might perish in the flames. You might even mention in passing, that if that happened, the publicity that followed would of course highlight police laziness.

Thanks will do.

milky_

jamie11 wrote: »

Having thought about this a bit, I believe your daughter should make a complaint to the housing department that she has been locked out of her home, it is their responsibility to then sort out the persons responsible. You should continue to pursue the police for the threatening behaviour.

Can you honestly tell us that you did nothing to precipitate the situation? I am not being judgmental but it does seem very strange behaviour to just blow up like this.

The only thing i did was ask for the 3 months rent and told both if they didnt pay they would be evicted as i can't allow them to stay in my house rent free..was i wrong in doing so??

DVardysShadow

milky_ wrote: »

i APPRECIATE all the responses and advise i have received but some comments have been quite harsh, like 'why u posting here' and saying that i have been threatening to the TENANTS? reallyyyy?? how am i suppose to react, and to be honest i think i have been quite reserved.

i was under the impression this was an open forum where i could ask for advise regardless if i have seen a solicitor or posted in a another forum, someone may have gone through something similar and offer some insight..i guess i got it wrong!

I think what you are getting wrong is that you are using 2 open forums to give selected parts of the story, rather than the whole issue. Now, you might think that the aspects you are asking about are separate. Hopefully, you will begin to see that all aspects of this problem have a bearing on both your 'separate' problems. And as an open forum you should not be surprised if people ask relevant searching problems, even if you don't avail yourself of the openness to relay all of the relevant issues

tbs624

milky_ wrote: »

Maybe you didnt read my above posts? i said : Over here i asked about the legal stand the THREATS had if any, regarding the police and what could be done, a SEPARATE issue all together.

i went to see a solictor regarding the eviction process...you say why bother posting here? SORRY i didnt realise there was a policy on the forum "do not post if you have seen a solictor " geez

I note you chose to ignore the question about whether you involved your daughter in the unpaid rent discussions.

As I say, I hope you get the help you clearly need.

milky_

tbs624 wrote: »

I note you chose to ignore the question about whether you involved your daughter in the unpaid rent discussions.

As I say, I hope you get the help you clearly need.

im sorry i missed your question, no she was not involved.

jamie11

milky_ wrote: »

The only thing i did was ask for the 3 months rent and told both if they didnt pay they would be evicted as i can't allow them to stay in my house rent free..was i wrong in doing so??

No, I can't say it was wrong, but it sort of depends on how you told them, if you were angry and showed it then they may well have become angry in return. It's always best to deal with tenants in a respectful manner, even if they are being idiots. A S21 or S8 would have got your meaning over just as well, they probably do not understand the law any better than you do. Or should I say did, you probably have a lot more idea now.

brit1234

milky_ wrote: »

Hi

i would like to know if threatening to burn a house is not a criminal offense?

My tenant is in rent arrears and has now changed locks and is basically blackmailing me, she has screamed down the phone that she wants money to leave the house and if i don't give her it she is going to BURN it.

I have reported this to the police but they did nothing saying it was a civil matter, is this not wrong? it has nothing to do with her rent arrears, the fact she has threatened to burn my house, does that not constitute as intent criminal damage? can the police not arrest her for this?????? i recorded the phonecall where she makes the threat.
Do i need to speak to a more senior officer? or will it make no difference?

PLEASE ADVISE, thank you!

Threats to cause criminal damage which includes arson is a criminal offence. Yes she can be arrested and I have done so in past.

Threats -Sec 2 Criminal Damage Act 1971

Section 2 provides that a person threatening another, with the intent that the other would fear the threat would be carried out
(a) to destroy or damage any property belonging to that other or a third person; or(b) to destroy or damage his own property in a way which he knows is likely to endanger the life of that other or a third person;shall be guilty of an offence.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_damage_in_English_law


Proofing it may be difficult though.



Report it to the police, it is not a civil matter, they fogged you off. If they don't take it seriously speak to their sergeant. Get it recorded.