THREATS by TENANT

caeler

winterwhite11 wrote: »

i bet they take drugs
can you do an annom phone call to police saying drugs are there and they was waving a gun around outside the house.

milky_ wrote: »

could you do it for me? : (

You are kidding?! This is not the way to get matters resolved. I suspect we have indeed been only getting a partial story here. You have received good advice here, you need to go now to a police station and report the threat and insist on being dealt with by an officer rather than a civilian. You need to sort out s21. If your daughter lives at the property and can prove it she needs to assert her rights.

BitterAndTwisted

Give my the ruddy address by personal message and I'll do it for you!

As you are aware you need to take care to behave in exactly the way that would protect you from any accusations of harassment.

If the tenant is on a rolling periodic tenancy you should issue a Section 21 Notice AND a Section 8. The most pressing issue at the moment is to get them out. The collection of rent-arrears can be set aside and addressed later. The permitted occupant, if not named on the tenancy has no more right s than the tenant. Leave the issue of getting them out for another day.

A tenant can change the locks at any time of their choosing and this is not a particular issue that needs to be addressed either.

satchmeister

caeler wrote: »

You are kidding?! This is not the way to get matters resolved. I suspect we have indeed been only getting a partial story here. You have received good advice here, you need to go now to a police station and report the threat and insist on being dealt with by an officer rather than a civilian. You need to sort out s21. If your daughter lives at the property and can prove it she needs to assert her rights.

Sounds complicated is it HMO?

BitterAndTwisted

If the daughter is not the named landlord on the tenancy agreement then she was a tenant just like the other one. This is not a complicating factor and should be disregarded. A co-tenant locked out of their own home can be sorted in a different way but I would ignore this right now.

milky_

caeler wrote: »

Your daughter lives with your tennants?! Does this mean that they are infact simply lodgers with your daughter maintaining the owners presence? I'm afraid I don't know much about these matters but this appears to sound quite complicated.

No they are not lodgers, my daughter has a AST agreement as TENANT 1 has, my daughter moved in early SEPT before TENANT 2

milky_

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

If the daughter is not the named landlord on the tenancy agreement then she was a tenant just like the other one. This is not a complicating factor and should be disregarded. A co-tenant locked out of their own home can be sorted in a different way but I would ignore this right now.

My daughter was advised she can get a locksmith to let her in but whats stopping them from changing the locks again? it will turn into a vicious circle? in the meantime they may if not already broken into her room

BobQ

I wonder if it would be a responsible thing to inform the neighbours that the tenant had threatened to burn the house down. As there is a recording of the threat its defensible and assuming the house is not detatched they stand to be affected if she carried out the threat. A complaint from the neighbours might make the police take the situation more seriously.

BobQ

milky_ wrote: »

My daughter was advised she can get a locksmith to let her in but whats stopping them from changing the locks again? it will turn into a vicious circle? in the meantime they may if not already broken into her room

If your daughter is a named tenant (is she?) she could enter when the house is empty and change the locks herself. The police would at least have to do something about the situation that results.

Has the OP consulted a solicitor?

BitterAndTwisted

milky_ wrote: »

My daughter was advised she can get a locksmith to let her in but whats stopping them from changing the locks again? it will turn into a vicious circle? in the meantime they may if not already broken into her room

Your daughter could choose to have a locksmith attend to get her in. She could also ask the police to attend to ensure her personal safety or to prevent a possible breach of the peace so that she could remove her possessions from the property.

This may be a sensible step, so that she could confirm what damage, if any has been done. I'd most definitely do this.

hellokitty08

hurm, slightly different for me as I am a tenant and the tenant in the flat above me, had threated to set my flat on fire whilst i was in it. Although the threat wasnt made directly to me, it was vocalised so loud by the neigbour that I heard it whilst sitting in my own flat.

I phoned the police, they took it very seriously. Went to have a word with the tenant and told him they would be keeping an eye on him, took down the registration details for his car and everything.

They also told me I would be put on an at risk register for the next couple of weeks, so if they recieved another call from me, they would respond quicker.

He moved out quite quickly afterwards.

I cant remeber what they called it, but it was something like itimidation.