Which tyre - Kenda or Rapid. URGENT!!

grizzly1911

Strider590 wrote: »

You can trust the Chinese about as far as a you can throw a fake Iphone.

"Top 20", Top 20 what? Quality? Sales? We've gone through a world wide recession.... Every idiot on wheels will be going out and buying the cheapest crap going.

I haves een tyres being produced at Goodyear and remembering adverts like the "Grand Prix S" whilst they also made Kelly on the same lines(probably different compounds I accept), tyres aren't rocket science, in the main.

Don't forget Bridgestone were "rubbished" 30/40 years ago.

I just wonder who we trust when most of the tyres are manufactured in the far east these days, Korea, Thailand, Taiwan.

Wonder if they still make any in those pre EU countries that were trashed at the time, like Czech Republic and Barum. I guess now they are in the EU we can trust them.

Paying a high price for any brand doesn't make it any better.

mikey72

grizzly1911 wrote: »

That would be this mickey mouse set up:?


Global Brand, Local Service.

Established in 1975, Shandong Linglong Rubber Co., Ltd is today one of the top 20 world tyre manufacturers.

The company covers an area of 2,400,000 sq.m with construction area of 800,000sq.m. It has more than 8000 employees and among them 1600 are technicians.

The factory manufactures 2000 different kinds of tyres in more than 10 series including bias tyre, passenger car and light truck radial tyres and steel heavy radial and special tyres. The annual output of bias tire is 4,000,000sets, passenger car and light truck radial 9,000,000sets, heavy radial 3,000,000sets and special tire 50,000sets. The products are exported worldwide.

For years, the company has been focusing on technology, management, brand, efficiency and quality. It initiated “Linglong speed” on technology improvement and management innovation to develop the tyre business and has well put it to its extended industrial chain. Today, Linglong has set up its unique industrial group with the tyre business as the core and the energy supply and the material production as the support and guarantee.

Linglong is going ‘Green” and is dedicated to the environment protection. Its innovations in plant design have helped protect 200,000 cubit metres land annually. The constant improvement of the cycling industrial chain and the integration of the technology, management, brand and market makes Linglong move to a modern enterprise with high efficiency, less environmental pollution, high technology and abundant resources advantage.

In the next few years, the company strives to implement the “1321” project, that is, 10000 staff, 30,000,000sets of tire, RMB 20,000,000,000 (USD 3 billions equivalent) sales income and be the world class tire manufacturer in both management and technology.

The company has passed and been awarded various national and international certificates

including:

• USA DOT
• European ECE and CCC certification
• QS9000、VDA6.1、GB/T19001.
• ISO9001 and TS16949.
• China national famous brand.
• Brand value RMB 4,391,000,000 (USD 646 millions).

:think:

Courtesy of linglong.com

Definitely mickey mouse.

It's easy to rubbish them
But I agree. It's one of the best known brands, everyone in the world knows them, they are world leaders and we all know the history from his first cartoon to the buying of most other major brands, and the way mickey mouse and Disney now leads the technolgy in the field he's in.

Doesn't the fact a nation builds an entire town to produce tyres, pulls in world leaders to pay them to make their brands, and so has access to nearly every tread and every compound in the world even give anyone any cause for concern.

Or is it enough to say, "what a silly name, they must be ditchfinders, I'll stick to the well known name like Avon they still make in china, but we'll skip over that bit"

Conti are doing the, "we're really dear, if we point out the worst, on a bad day, we'll keep the premium for a brand we now make in the eastern block, and people will still pay"

So, east germany, or china?

mikey72

grizzly1911 wrote: »

I haves een tyres being produced at Goodyear and remembering adverts like the "Grand Prix S" whilst they also made Kelly on the same lines(probably different compounds I accept), tyres aren't rocket science, in the main.

Don't forget Bridgestone were "rubbished" 30/40 years ago.

I just wonder who we trust when most of the tyres are manufactured in the far east these days, Korea, Thailand, Taiwan.

Wonder if they still make any in those pre EU countries that were trashed at the time, like Czech Republic and Barum. I guess now they are in the EU we can trust them.

Paying a high price for any brand doesn't make it any better.

Bridgestone, Japanese rubbish if I remember.
Yokohama as well, you used to buy a decent Japanese motobike, (as opposed to the British rubbish, leaked oil, if they ran, then broke down anyway), first thing you have to do to the wonder bike was scrap the tyres and put a decent set on.

KTF

In theory the difference between a Chinese ditch finder and a 'known' brand that is made in China is the engineering behind it. Just because it is made in the same place doesnt mean it contains the same stuff.

BMW, Mercedes, etc all have plants in China and you cant tell the difference between cars made there or the ones made in other plants.

Look at how badly the Chinese reverse engineered cars held up when they were crash tested a few years ago. They may look the same but are not the same.

avantra

rodenal wrote: »

They absolutely are not fine , unfortunately some people will only find that out the hard way. Too many other threads to go on about it but to the op, please just spend a little more on some reasonable rubber or look around for some at that price

Eveb something like the falken 912 would be a better choice at 72 fitted, still not a great tyre if I'm being honest but I would be willing to bet it will far outperform your others

Again, the same assumptions, can I please see the statistics showing a comparisons of accidents rates where said car involved had budget tyres vs cars having premuim brands boots?


The fact of the matter is you have no proof of such kind so your assumption is that - yours.

Like someone here said before, the way to the ditch is long and many reaons to it, tyre brand should probably be the list of your worries.

Lum

vax2002 wrote: »

the worse driver you are, the better tyres you need

And the better driver you are, the better tyres you want.

mikey72

You should cut your coat according to your cloth.

grizzly1911

mikey72 wrote: »

Bridgestone, Japanese rubbish if I remember.
Yokohama as well, you used to buy a decent Japanese motobike, (as opposed to the British rubbish, leaked oil, if they ran, then broke down anyway), first thing you have to do to the wonder bike was scrap the tyres and put a decent set on.

They learned though and they are now classed as a premium brand. DOn't watch it but aren't they one of only two F1 manufacturers?

grizzly1911

Lum wrote: »

And the better driver you are, the better tyres you want.

The better the driver you think you are with little understanding of the technology.

grizzly1911

KTF wrote: »

In theory the difference between a Chinese ditch finder and a 'known' brand that is made in China is the engineering behind it. Just because it is made in the same place doesnt mean it contains the same stuff.

No not if wants to be sold here it has to meet the specifications laid down here.

I know a few people who worked in the motor industry in Europe, engineers and designers, not line assemblers, who are working in China and India who are working in state of the art plants. 20 years ago you may have been wholly right.

Gucci fakes don't need a safety specification.