The Work Programme New Thread

AP007

Any fool would know that unless the WP can make an employer interview you , you will not get an interview. Its that's easy

donnajunkie

jayne30 wrote: »

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/163458/response/403920/attach/html/11/LTT%202013%2005%2021.pdf.html

From this it looks like wp returnees are being put into 2 groups Mandatory Intervention Regime or Jobcentre Plus Offer if you have recent work experience/job ready.

I take it for those of us who volunteer we will be put on the JCP Offer ?

For those who have finished wp and had their post wp appointments have you been told what category you are in ?

The JCP Offer seems a bit like the old FND where you saw a JCP advisor every so many weeks until you were sent to do a year with a outside provider.

For those who consider themselves job ready but get put in the Mandatory Intervention Regime then in my opinion it is open to appeal this decision after all wasn't the 2 years spent on the work programme supposed to get us all to job ready level.

i doubt they will base their decision on what it says they should. things like whether they like your face, whether they are nasty or nice, whether their diary can fit you in etc will more likely influence what they do with you.

Flyonthewall

grai wrote: »

the amount of people coming off it without getting anything out of it shows they were not even trying to understand each persons individual needs or problems about getting work - everyone gets told "you are a special case we can't help you" They said the exact same thing to me

my advisor told me the DWP is in a contract with the Work Programme providers that it can't get out of - so basically all the staff on the WP want to do is go through the motions, keep the staus quo and get their wages at the end of the week

And now we are being treated as though that is our fault

Very true.

That's interesting that they're stuck in a contract, but it explains a lot. The WP I'm with has very bad reviews, but I think they got a lot of online content removed because there's very few sites with content on yet a lot of people have something to say about them.

The odd thing is that the WP get money for each person who gets a job (provided they state they came off JSA for work) and yet the WP I'm with has often messed up peoples chance of getting work or keeping a job. It obviously doesn't help them, the JC or the people with them.

Flyonthewall

donnajunkie wrote: »

i doubt they will base their decision on what it says they should. things like whether they like your face, whether they are nasty or nice, whether their diary can fit you in etc will more likely influence what they do with you.

Sad, but true lol

AP007

Flyonthewall wrote: »

Very true.

That's interesting that they're stuck in a contract, but it explains a lot. The WP I'm with has very bad reviews, but I think they got a lot of online content removed because there's very few sites with content on yet a lot of people have something to say about them.

The odd thing is that the WP get money for each person who gets a job (provided they state they came off JSA for work) and yet the WP I'm with has often messed up peoples chance of getting work or keeping a job. It obviously doesn't help them, the JC or the people with them.

ONLY if you sign the consent from if you withdraw consent they get NOTHING as they then can not get the info as to where you work and then claim they got the job for you

missapril75

donnajunkie wrote: »

i doubt they will base their decision on what it says they should. things like whether they like your face, whether they are nasty or nice, whether their diary can fit you in etc will more likely influence what they do with you.

Or whether you lied to them like you advocated in another thread?

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

What women who come from an accounts background? I doubt it very much. I get a bad back just standing let alone doing manual work at my age lol

whats the work placement programme???

its not like being sentenced to hard labour on these schemes. you dont have people stood over you with whips telling you to work faster. so dont worry. i believe there is a possibility of 4 week work placements but it will just be the usual things like tescos, charity shops i would think. they are not going to send a woman hod carrying. if in the very unlikely event they did the superviser at the placement is likely to have enough common sense to not expect the person to do it and would probably give them something else to do. if you had a bad back and told them and they sent you somewhere that involves heavy lifting and you hurt your back then it would be where theres a blame theres a claim time. although again the superviser would be likely to have common sense.

Flyonthewall

AP007 wrote: »

ONLY if you sign the consent from if you withdraw consent they get NOTHING as they then can not get the info as to where you work and then claim they got the job for you

Yeah that too. Much as I don't want them to get anything after the trouble with the first advisor, there is a contract for the employer to get money for employing someone on a WP and I don't know if they'd get that if you stop the WP getting money. If the employer doesn't know or doesn't care about it then fine, but if they do...

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

its not like being sentenced to hard labour on these schemes. you dont have people stood over you with whips telling you to work faster. so dont worry. i believe there is a possibility of 4 week work placements but it will just be the usual things like tescos, charity shops i would think. they are not going to send a woman hod carrying. if in the very unlikely event they did the superviser at the placement is likely to have enough common sense to not expect the person to do it and would probably give them something else to do. if you had a bad back and told them and they sent you somewhere that involves heavy lifting and you hurt your back then it would be where theres a blame theres a claim time. although again the superviser would be likely to have common sense.

there are no jobs in charity shops as the ones here have a 4 year wait list and if its to work in Tesco like I have said before a JOB should be NMW no JSA

AP007

Flyonthewall wrote: »

Yeah that too. Much as I don't want them to get anything after the trouble with the first advisor, there is a contract for the employer to get money for employing someone on a WP and I don't know if they'd get that if you stop the WP getting money. If the employer doesn't know or doesn't care about it then fine, but if they do...

a what?

There is NO ££ for a company when they take someone on who is on the WP!!