The Work Programme New Thread

Vincent_Buenisedes

AP007 wrote: »

Isnt that something like £400? Surely they wont make on that at all as therer are some poeple there a few times a week and soon that £ will be gone paid in fares. Ah thats why they are only giving people half price travel now even if you dont have a discount card.

Well the theory behind the Work Programme was that the providers would stump up their own money and use their superior private sector expertise to get people into work and then claim the juicy fee's from the government (Upto nearly £14k for the hardest to help). The taxpayer was originally not going to pay 1 penny upfront.

Now, look at the Work Programme in practice. The hardest to help are parked and the providers more interested in those who would more than likely find a job on their own with minimum support. They have a high staff turnover and their expertise mainly consists of hiring below-par recruitment consultants. I mean let's face it, if the staff were any good at getting people into jobs, they would be working for an recruitment firm rather than a poverty pimp. The whole thing's a shambles and I bet £10 that in the next couple of years the providers will go cap in hand to the government pleading for more cash and with an election coming up the government will pay it.

AP007

Vincent_Buenisedes wrote: »

Well the theory behind the Work Programme was that the providers would stump up their own money and use their superior private sector expertise to get people into work and then claim the juicy fee's from the government (Upto nearly £14k for the hardest to help). The taxpayer was originally not going to pay 1 penny upfront.

Now, look at the Work Programme in practice. The hardest to help are parked and the providers more interested in those who would more than likely find a job on their own with minimum support. They have a high staff turnover and their expertise mainly consists of hiring below-par recruitment consultants. I mean let's face it, if the staff were any good at getting people into jobs, they would be working for an recruitment firm rather than a poverty pimp. The whole thing's a shambles and I bet £10 that in the next couple of years the providers will go cap in hand to the government pleading for more cash and with an election coming up the government will pay it.

The team leader and the yet another new bloke I saw yesterday used to work for recruitment agencies and I know they only get £17-£23k at my provider as I have seen the jobs advertised so yes Id ask the question if they were working for Reed (one was) and he was good at his job why is he still not there?

Made redundant?
Sacked?

Maybe that was too much like hard work for them

The centre I go to have had 4 managers and I have seen 8 advisors. Only 2 people are still there from the begining!!!

This 'boy' is going to teach me 'Understanding the employment market'!! LOL

They can only help the problem people I am afriad.

looby75

I strongly suspect that I have been parked. When I first went to them I was classed as job ready and they admitted there was nothing they could do to help me as I have good grades in GCSE English and Maths and my CV was good. They called me in every 3-4 weeks and made me do a "guided job search" (sit in their office for an hour every few weeks to use their computers and unreliable internet connection, which was so bad IE often timed out before connecting to the website) Then my health took a turn for the worse and I had to start claiming ESA. I had one appointment with yet another new advisor at the start of the year and I haven't heard a dickybird from them since. I did mention that there is a possibility that I will become a carer for my ill mother in law (my own health permitting) at sometime in the not too distant future so I suspect this is why I've not heard anything from them. Oh and they have recently moved premises and it costs a fortune for me to get to them now so it costs them a lot for me to get there now.

I'm not complaining though. If they aren't hassling me (because lets face it they've never done anything to help) I can concentrate on getting better and looking after my MIL.

wantsajob

AP007 wrote: »

One last thing - also going over the fact I have to be available to travel 1hr 30 mins to and from work but no mention of the NMW

I would interpret that as about 5 and a half miles (walking time). If they don't specify how you should travel, hardly your fault

AP007

wantsajob wrote: »

I would interpret that as about 5 and a half miles (walking time). If they don't specify how you should travel, hardly your fault

Eh? Its by public transport as it always have been my point was why are they telling me something I already know. What they tell people is pointless!

It could be from London to Brighton if they wanted.

donnajunkie

looby75 wrote: »

I strongly suspect that I have been parked.

I'm not complaining though. If they aren't hassling me (because lets face it they've never done anything to help) I can concentrate on getting better and looking after my MIL.

yes that is the way to look at it. its a god send to be parked when they cant help. who needs to be going to see them regularly and getting threatened and made to do pointless things.

donnajunkie

wantsajob wrote: »

I would interpret that as about 5 and a half miles (walking time). If they don't specify how you should travel, hardly your fault

you wouldnt get away with that. it considers all reasonable ways of getting there.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

you wouldnt get away with that. it considers all reasonable ways of getting there.

You are all missing the point here.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

You are all missing the point here.

werent they talking about the upto 90 minutes travel time rule the jobcentre has? werent they suggesting that you could limit the travel distance to 5 and a half miles by saying you walk everywhere?

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

werent they talking about the upto 90 minutes travel time rule the jobcentre has? werent they suggesting that you could limit the travel distance to 5 and a half miles by saying you walk everywhere?

no one mentioned walking at all the poster on here said about walking and it taking 90 mins to go 5 or so miles.