The Work Programme New Thread

dandelionclock30

So would the person be expected to sign off? or just say how much they earned that week and have it deducted from their JSA? Sounds rubbish.
One of my friends does this and she got a 1st class law degree but she gets paid an hourly rate.

ason

Im going to ask for a new adviser and go from there but i dont hold any hope it be any better,

Vincent_Buenisedes

KevInChester wrote: »

To be fair to the Work Programme I am on, the job broker is fantastic, just the other day I heard her offering some fortunate soul an amazing opportunity. On a commission only basis, he could call people up all day offering to reclaim PPI for them. Got to admit, I was a tad envious....

At least they'd get commission. My advisor just seems to offer work-trials in nightclubs. That and a penchant for sending spec letters.

I've been with my provider for a few months now and the support is just as non-existant as it was under Flexible New Deal, only now the organisation regarding appointment setting is extremely haphazard. Several times I have been booked appointments only to turn up and my advisor is either ill, on holiday, or in a meeting, and it's left to the hapless "apprentice" kid on the front desk to book me another appointment. I've relayed my grumbles onto my Jobcentre advisor but every time they just stick their fingers in their ears singing "La-la-la I can't hear you".

Hopefully we'll get the official figures for the current success rate (getting people into gainful work) soon, which will put the spotlight back on the Work Programme and it's shambles.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Parking [those parked in Work Programmes] Fees

The prime contractor does nothing except pass you on to a Sub Contractor and gets about £2k for doing this, the tier & tier 2 Sub Contractor gets the what's left. Here is an example of a well known London based Prime Contractor :

• Attachment fee: £150 [out of a DWP maximum of £400]

• Job Start: £140

• After 6 months in work: £590 [out of a DWP maximum of £1200]

• 13 monthly payments for each additional month of sustained work: £110 [out of a DWP maximum of £215]

Total awarded to the sub-contractor: £2300 out of a DWP maximum of £4395. My point in posting the figures is Sub Contractors as evidenced in this thread are generally doing a lousy job for their £2395. However another £2000 is skimmed off your value by the Prime Contractor who does virtually nothing for the money and zero to help you the individual.

The real question is if the Sub Contractor [the real human person you see] was given the whole £4395 for helping you - would doubling their money per 'bum seat' mean they work harder for you and get you the help you need - or - would they just pocket the lot as extra profit and carry on with the same ineffective current level of service ?

ason

I got a email today from them now dont jump for joy and think im getting help all it said was,You on the right track? Everything ok?, thats alot of help made me feel alot better.

flaxy_2

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

So would the person be expected to sign off? or just say how much they earned that week and have it deducted from their JSA? Sounds rubbish.
One of my friends does this and she got a 1st class law degree but she gets paid an hourly rate.

Dandelion who are you replying to?

I have a temporary christmas job starting in a week and I need info about how being on jobseekers and having a low hours temporary job works.

donnajunkie

well the new sanction regime starts next week and its got my provider all excited. they seem to think its a going to give them licence to get nastier.

MissSarah1972

donnajunkie wrote: »

well the new sanction regime starts next week and its got my provider all excited. they seem to think its a going to give them licence to get nastier.

Is that just for people on the work programme as I have not been given a letter like someone posted on a thread on here by the job centre?

donnajunkie

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

Is that just for people on the work programme as I have not been given a letter like someone posted on a thread on here by the job centre?

no the change to sanctions is for every claimant. it is now 3 months for first offence, 6 months for second and 3 years for third. they had a pile of letters when i signed on recently. i had to ask to get one though. it was today that i became aware of what i said in my previous post. in the jobsearch session our adviser told us all that the rule that says you must be available for employment means that you must be contactable and that they will try to phone you twice and if they dont manage to speak to you and you dont get back to them within 24 hours they will refer you for sanction. so basically you cant risk leaving the house during office hours monday to friday incase they call. if you do then there are potential scenarios were you could miss their call due to being out and then dont get their message passed onto you by your forgetful partner or perhaps you live alone and dont have an answer machine and miss it that way.
of course alot of what i say only applies to you if you havent given them a mobile number.

MissSarah1972

donnajunkie wrote: »

no the change to sanctions is for every claimant. it is now 3 months for first offence, 6 months for second and 3 years for third. they had a pile of letters when i signed on recently. i had to ask to get one though. it was today that i became aware of what i said in my previous post. in the jobsearch session our adviser told us all that the rule that says you must be available for employment means that you must be contactable and that they will try to phone you twice and if they dont manage to speak to you and you dont get back to them within 24 hours they will refer you for sanction. so basically you cant risk leaving the house during office hours monday to friday incase they call. if you do then there are potential scenarios were you could miss their call due to being out and then dont get their message passed onto you by your forgetful partner or perhaps you live alone and dont have an answer machine and miss it that way.
of course alot of what i say only applies to you if you havent given them a mobile number.

If they want people to know they have to give you the letter which you sign for normally at the job centre like when they issue you with a different date to sign you have to sign to say you have been given the date.

I signed last Friday and saw no letters anywhere.

the job centre wont be calling people will they? who would have the time to do that?

Also how you will know they have called? You have to have an answering machine for that.

You can still miss a call 'unknown' on a mobile too.