The Work Programme New Thread

kazzah60

Modster wrote: »

Decided to go in today and attend the managers appointment. Her solution to my complaint is I attend Monday, Wednesday and friday from 2-3 for an hours job search ask her to change the time as I get the kids from school at 3 and my partner is heavily pregnant but she didnt give a !!!!!!. Said to her all this cause I wont give you my consent or CV when I am more than capable of looking for work on my own behalf. Told me I should start applying for any job that I am capable of doing now to which I replied not all jobs are financially beneficial in my circumstances and there is certain jobs I wouldnt do. After I finished my conversation with her she asked if I was satisfied with the outcome and I told her no not really. Am in on friday from 2 to 4:30 as am doing the customer portal training, thing is am bursting at the seams with PC qaulifications so there isnt much I dont know or cant do on them so I dont think logging in or navigating their service is going to be a challenge, its a complete waste of time.

Need to take things further so once I hear back from the Regional Director thats what I plan on doing.

How often do people here attend their work programme, bet it aint more than at least once a week?

my hubby has had to attend 6 sessions in 9 days.............

Murphymycat

kazzah60 wrote: »

I think you may labouring under a misapprehension that the role of the Work Programme is to FIND the unemployed jobs - in my husbands experience they have not FOUND him one role to apply for - the advisor told my husband that his area of expertise ( Project Management in the Third Sector) was "way over her head" and to " keep on doing what he is doing"

HOW can that possibly be construed as " finding him employment" ?

Also NONE of the staff my husband has met at Sarina Russo have been "recruitment" agency staff- his current "advisor" was a care home manager for 30 years !

in fact my husband e mailed his "advisor" 3 weeks ago saying he would not be in for his two hour slot to cold call companies he would like to work for ( the type of role he is looking for ALWAYS advertise their roles in newspapers or with agencies)
because it was actually detracting from his job searching at home - and guess what - apart from a reply saying the WP was manadory - he hasn't heard a word from her since

the type of jobs my husband is looking for will not be found at a workplace provider - you may think this is snobby- but it is an actual fact of life.

At no point has my husband been assessed RED ( furthest away from employment) AMBER ( potentially ready for employment) or GREEN - ready for employment , which I have been informed he should have been.

however the "advisor" was VERY interested in the three Interviews he had lined up ( obtained from his own worksearch) and wanted a "contact name and address" - simply so that IF he was offered a job, Sarina Russo ( the provider) could claim a success story and apply for payment for "finding him work"

she was VERY surprised when my husband didn't supply this information - they will be paid when and IF they secure my husband a job - but as they don't seem to have any jobs to offer, that seems unlikely .

My husband is now waiting for confirmation that he has 30 years of NI contributions - if he has he no longer needs to sign on for JSA, he gets no benefit due to a small occupational pension and so only signs for his NI contribution - if he has sufficient contributions then we will be waving the JobecentrePlus goodbye and Sarina Russo and the Work Programme along with

donnajunkie

Modster wrote: »

How often do people here attend their work programme, bet it aint more than at least once a week?

the rules allow them to tailor it to the person. so that means they can have you in there as often as they feel necessary. it means they can vary it from person to person without being accused of being what they are. if they are being out of order and having you in 3 times a week for jobsearch i would take the p**s right back and do tons of applications and make sure its the old fashioned way. this will mean you will use lots of their paper, ink, envelopes and stamps. they may say do it via email. just respond by saying you dont know it and cant find it on the net. you could also try playing dumb and constantly hassle them for help with applications.

donnajunkie

well i've done my first day on the cscs card course i've been put on. the hours arent what my advisor said they would be. the days arent what my advisor said they would be. apart from the first day the locations arent what my advisor said they would be. its looking like one of the training days could clash with a signing day. so that means trying to get the jobcentre to move my signing time until late in the day.
today we just had an induction. all we did was paperwork. it was endless filling in of pointless forms. every single one of them wanted me to fill in my name, address etc. apparently they need two forms of id. well they will be lucky as i dont have any.

wantsajob

donnajunkie wrote: »

this will mean you will use lots of their paper, ink, envelopes and stamps.

Hmmm I wonder if you could send your Christmas cards etc there, :rotfl: Just put Ltd after your family and friend's names.

kazzah60

I assume Murphymycat has quoted my post to point out that I have made two conflicting statements saying my husband hasn't been into sarina russo for 3 weeks

and then stated that he attended 6 times in 9 days

whilst murphymycat HASN'T actually posted any comment on the post, I will clarify for anyone who hasn't read all the thread that my husband attended 6 times within the first 9 days of being signed up to Sarina Russo and then heard nothing from his "advisor" for 3 weeks

I am sure murphymycat will pop along and let me know if I have completely mis-understood his/her post.

LadyMissA

kazzah60 wrote: »

I assume has quoted my post to point out that I have made two conflicting statements saying my husband hasn't been into sarina russo for 3 weeks

and then stated that he attended 6 times in 9 days

whilst murphymycat HASN'T actually posted any comment on the post, I will clarify for anyone who hasn't read all the thread that my husband attended 6 times within the first 9 days of being signed up to Sarina Russo and then heard nothing from his "advisor" for 3 weeks

I am sure murphymycat will pop along and let me know if I have completely mis-understood his/her post.

No Murphymycat asked a question under your post about ni contributions and then they did an edit where the quotes have all gone wrong and their post as dissapeared?

very odd

kazzah60

thanks for clarifying that MissA

LadyMissA

kazzah60 wrote: »

thanks for clarifying that MissA

I think the question was about would they have to continue to sign on if their NI contributions were something like 30 years and I was going to say only if they are not claiming any JSA or something but the post dissapeared!

Maybe they can post again?

The_ICT_Engineer

In today's Guardian,

DWP's own assessment of mandatory work activity program finds it has 'no impact on the likelihood of being employed'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jun/13/mandatory-work-scheme-government-research

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