Ooooh, What happened to the KFC thread?

Azari

goater78 wrote: »

I don't think I've ever been insulted by being called a goatherd before!

Your whole argument falls down because you are trying to imply the whole of Britain applies these racist terms to other countries when in fact the whole of Britain doesn't refer to Germans as krauts or the Japanese as japs. Only the small racist minority do

This would be true if referring to the Japs as 'Japs' was generally accepted as being racist in this country.

It isn't.

You have decided in your own little head that it is and, as far as you are concerned, that's that.

But for the majority of people 'Japs' is just one of many abbreviations: "Aussies, Brits, Canuks, Japs, Ruskies, Turks" and nothing more.

You seem to belong to the self consciously 'right on' brigade who think that as soon as someone suggests a term 'might be racist' it is and you will enhance your 'right on' credentials by ramming your own distorted viewpoint down everyone else's throat.

As such you are an enemy of anti-racisim because you smug, arrogant, self righteous, attitude detracts from the things that are real and important and actually detrimentally affect the lives of minorities.

System

yes I am an enemy of anti-racism because I would rather not refer to people from Japan by a racist term.....

this argument is going nowhere as you are resorting to insults to try and justify your use of a racist term. Its the sign on a weak argument.

Azari

goater78 wrote: »

yes I am an enemy of anti-racism

Well, at least you admit it.

People like you cause a lot more harm than good.

this argument is going nowhere

Because the argument is in your head.

You are just trying to force your own distorted view on everyone else.

System

Azari wrote: »

Well, at least you admit it.

People like you cause a lot more harm than good.



Because the argument is in your head.

You are just trying to force your own distorted view on everyone else.

selected quoting, absolutely brilliant argument.

vax2002

The word racist is a busted flush.
It is the first words screamed by the liberals when they start to loose any argument, it is how they drag any debate that disagrees with there views out of the public eye.
In this case it was about Islam and halal
If anyone can tell me what race Islam is, I will buy them a ruddy KFC !

System

The argument developed from the KFC argument as a poster used a racist term which pretty much everyone finds abhorrent. Then another poster asked why it was racist and listed other terms which were similar and not racist. I said one of these terms "jap" was racist and its kicked off as some posters think it isn't racist and some think it is.

Azari

goater78 wrote: »

selected quoting, absolutely brilliant argument.

Do you deny that you admitted to being an enemy of anti-racism?

You've certainly shown that you are.

Some of us have been promoting the anti-racism cause for years and object to fools like yourself who put people's backs by spuriously screaming 'racism' where there is no evidence of any just to try to demonstrate to the world how 'right on' you are.

Shevchenko01

Azari wrote: »

They would if it were deemed to be causing upset to people.

If, for example, the inmates of a school whose main intake was black started racially abusing a white minority.

But as whites have not, in the main, historically, been oppressed by black majorities, then, no, no one with any intelligence is going to take a few people calling whites 'whitey' or 'ghost' to be a matter for serious action.

I totally disagree with you.

If you allow a section of society to "get away with" an act that they themselves find offensive/racist, it breeds resentment.

An example: two of my (white) colleagues on a night out in Luton were attacked by two vehicles worth of an ethnic group that is a minority in the UK but not so in Luton. Both needed hospital treatment and the Police were involved. Both wanted to report it as a racially motivated attack but the Police did everything within their powers to stop that from happening.

If the situation had been reversed (if the attackers had been white), do you honestly believe that the same approach by the Police? This caused so much resentment by my colleagues that one in particular has started developing almost a hatred for the minority group – he felt that they were allowed to get away with something that he would have ended up inside for.

Laws, rules, whatever you want to call them, must apply to all equally. By arguing for protection for one race and denying it to all or some others is a racist approach in itself.

I do find you quote of “no one with any intelligence is going to take a few people calling whites 'whitey' or 'ghost' to be a matter for serious action” to be quite offensive and inconsiderate in itself, as the comments I’ve had in one or two local areas where I, as a white person am in a definite minority, have felt threatened and intimidated by the remarks and comments made by various non-white groups – yet are you saying that, as a white person I should simply accept it? That is dangerous ground indeed.

System

It's pretty obvious the guy is ignorant and slightly racist. I wouldn't let him offend you.

mgdavid

Shevchenko01 wrote: »

........as the comments I’ve had in one or two local areas where I, as a white person am in a definite minority, have felt threatened and intimidated by the remarks and comments made by various non-white groups – yet are you saying that, as a white person I should simply accept it? That is dangerous ground indeed.

I'd say you're over-sensitive, have little or no sense of humour and maybe worst of all cannot laugh at yourself.
I've worked in two German companies for well over 25 years and in neither was the word 'kraut' taken as either offensive or racist; indeed it would often be used by Germans in a self-deprecating way. I also worked for a French company where 'frog' was often used and never viewed (by either nationality) as racist but more a term of endearment. I have friends who go motor racing in France and the banter is always about the 'frogs' and the 'rost-bifs'.
People who make a big deal out of being a 'victim' will always find something to be a victim about, no matter which words are banned.