do you believe in psychic mediums readings

bcl999

hypnochris wrote: »

Firstly, please be aware, that a 'psychic' is different to a 'medium' in many ways.

Secondly, yes Mr Fry, and Ms.Morgan are a bit pants, and do
have dodgy reputations.

And thirdly, spiritualism is a recognized religion, so please be careful what you say on these matters.

Not every clairvoyant medium is a fraud, or out for your money.
A good medium will not keep asking you to answer questions.
A medium contacts loved one who have passed on, a psychic will not.

Yes, I entriely agree with you.

Spiritualism is founded on providing evidence of an afterlife - not predicting the future.

bcl999

dealer_wins wrote: »

I am a medium and I predict that this post will get under 50 thanks!!!

Well, I am a large but I think your prediction will be correct.

bcl999

Dave_C wrote: »

Why? I am free to express my views on any religion, subject to the usual laws of Libel.

Anyway, have a look here (PDF) for a look on the inside of spiritualist churches.

Dave

That link is 177 pages - life's too short!! Hell, even the after-life would be too short!

rachel90

I have been to a small church in which they have a psychic medium after the usual church readings. I have also been to learn the ability to give psychic readings. I have given accurate readings to people I have had no idea about their backgrounds.
I did do a joint platform once with people in the group but I didn't pick up on anything. I do believe in a lot of it but not entirely as with the well known psychics, I do believe they are doing it for money over anything else.
There are some genuine people out there though, have a search for local spiritualist churches in your area and go along one evening, you may not get any information but its worth seeing the genuine "psychics":)

Beetlemama

I believe in Derren Brown - but does anybody else get the feeling while he's saying "This is all a trick" he's actually doing something far creepier...? humm...

no1catman

meercatsunited wrote: »

The problem is no one can find a genuine one.
any medium who really could do this would take the USA challenge or at least say there is no charge unless they come up with real facts.
I have a relative, president of a spiritualist church for 50 years who also says a lot of it is b******t, you get the same people being read not because there really is a message but because that medium knows the person inside out and who they want to contact.
most of these churches have tea and biscuits after the service, that is how they get to know you and then low and behold you eventually get a message.

Actually the opposite is true with Spiritualist Churchs. You are more likely to get a reading if you go there for the first time. Often the 'speaker' - who has travelled perhaps 50 - 150 miles to get there, will point to an 'sign' on the front of the dias - 'dont feed the medium' - i.e. only say yes or no.
The congregation do not pay to go in, a collection maybe taken, but everyone is free to give or not whether £2.00 or £0.02!
On the on hand the message may be said to be too general, but as long as the recipient understands - why should the rest know such personal details. Conversly, other times the message is so specific and so unusual that it could only apply to that person.
You think it info - from 'tea & biscuits'!? Well don't know about you but I don't discuss the suicide of someone I knew a couple of decades ago, or details of a neighbour who used to live near me when I grew up.
You may wish to get a message from someone who has recently passed over, but the message you get could be from someone totally unexpected. Moreover, often it will include something that has happened recently at home - some work to be done, something you have lost - showing that you weren't alone.

Beetlemama

Sadly I think that a lot of these things will have happened to a lot of people of a certain age, it's a pretty dead cert that my grandparents will be dead, or my husbands parents, simple because of how old we are, and after a few handfulls of decades on the planet, most of us knew someone who killed themselves, or was killed.

I've been, in my youth, to spiritualist churches and they all seemed false to me, as I got older and watched people on TV doing the same thing, I put it all down to cold reading. Having said that, if the person doing the "seeing" is giving comfort then I feel torn that they might be helping, provided they aren't blatantly ripping the bereaved off. I have known women who never got over the loss of a partner who really could have used someone saying "Pete says you need to move on". There was a story on TV today/yesterday about a woman killed defending her handbag in which she had carried the ashes of her husband for something like 17 years. He's wouldn't have wanted her to still be that sad at his loss I am sure

However, I'm not entirely without belief of a kind, even if I don't like that I can't explain it. When we first moved in here I saw a woman in an old fashioned maids outfit go down the stairs, it wasn't creepy, it was just like she was there, I said to my husband Well D, looks like we bought a ghost. Thinking I was being shocking, the next time we saw the previous owner of the house (he lives in town still) I said to him "So, why didn't you tell us the house was haunted?" and he said "Oh, um, who did you see? the maid or the lady in gray?" - his wife saw her too, right after they first moved in 20 years previous. They concluded that she stopped by to check on the new occupants. I guess she stopped by on us too.

kez_s

I've been asked several times if I believe in psychic's that are on the TV but I really do think they are a load of tosh, I went to see one a few years ago, I don't think he's famous but most of what he came out with anyone could have guessed, had he come to me I'm not sure how I would have reacted, but I'm known for being a bit of a sarcastic mare at times so unless he'd come out with something no-one else could possibly have known I'd have probably come out with a sarcastic comment and walked out.

I do however think there is something, I've known people quite close to me go to see people who've not made a big song or dance about it or charged money for that matter and they've known things that would have been almost impossible to find out otherwise.

Dave_C_2

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

If anyone is interested in how mediums gleaned their information prior to the days of the internet, M Lamar Keene's book "The Psychic M a f i a" is marvellously entertaining.

See post number 60 for a link to the PDF of the book. :-)

Dave

Dave_C_2

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

Thanks Dave, I missed that - I'm on 3G so didn't download.
Many apologies.

No apology needed, we're not psychic