Will - excluding a child

newcook

bethl79 wrote: »

Hi newcook, the original post said that only the wife hasn't met the child, the father has had contact with the child in the past. It doesn't say how much though.

ooops - my bad

princessdreamer

In a lot of new relationships the new woman pushes the old family out through jealousy or insecurity. Especially with older children who have their own opinions.

bethl79

newcook wrote: »

but the post also said they have never met the child so the relationship was over before the child was born.

granted there are a lot of men that want to have contact with the children and support them financially and emotionally or fight for access - but there are also others that dont.

the final say as to whether a man is made a father or not is down to the woman (as it should be- it is her body) but surely it is up to the man if he wants to be a part of the childs life that he did not plan for in the first place?
it may not be morally right and it may not sit right with a lot of people but you cannot make someone be part of someones life.

Also, the simple fact is that if you have sex and don't take precautions then there is a very good chance that the result will be pregnancy. Even if you use precautions there is still approx 1-3% chance of pregnancy (depending on which method you use). If you don't want a child don't have sex!

bethl79

Sorry newcook that came across really ranty, it wasn't aimed at you but at all those men who refuse to face up to their responsibility.

DUTR

bethl79 wrote: »

Also, the simple fact is that if you have sex and don't take precautions then there is a very good chance that the result will be pregnancy. Even if you use precautions there is still approx 1-3% chance of pregnancy (depending on which method you use). If you don't want a child don't have sex!

Or to add to your over simplistic comment, don't have children!!!

newcook

bethl79 wrote: »

Also, the simple fact is that if you have sex and don't take precautions then there is a very good chance that the result will be pregnancy. Even if you use precautions there is still approx 1-3% chance of pregnancy (depending on which method you use). If you don't want a child don't have sex!

but apart from tinktinktinkerbell over in the Arms forum I cant think of anyone who doesnt have sex so they dont create a baby!

euronorris

bethl79 wrote: »

Also, the simple fact is that if you have sex and don't take precautions then there is a very good chance that the result will be pregnancy. Even if you use precautions there is still approx 1-3% chance of pregnancy (depending on which method you use). If you don't want a child don't have sex!

I think it's more than a little unreasonable to expect everyone who doesn't want children, to not have sex.

However, I do think it is prudent to take reasonable precautions to prevent pregnancy, and be honest and up front with sexual partners about the fact that you don't want children with them or anyone else, and discuss how you would both deal with the situation IF it arised. And try to double up on contraception where possible (like a condom and the pill for example, not 2 condoms at the same time as that will actually most likely lead to the condoms splitting).

DUTR

princessdreamer wrote: »

TBH that would be more the father fault than the childs, maintaining the relationship until the child reaches an age they can make their own decisions is up to BOTH parents. Every situation is different my ex was my husband for many years, he has never been turned away but chose to ignore his sons. CSA is the minimum you can get away with paying, why should they miss out on anything left from the part of the estate he got that I built up.

What about in the case where the Mother never contributed to any of the Father's estate?

newcook

bethl79 wrote: »

Sorry newcook that came across really ranty, it wasn't aimed at you but at all those men who refuse to face up to their responsibility.

hahaha! thats ok - I didnt take it as being ranty at me! I learnt long ago on here that you cant take things personally as everyone is entitled to their own point of veiw and we dont always agree!

newcook

euronorris wrote: »

Inot 2 condoms at the same time as that will actually most likely lead to the condoms splitting.

I've heard this is the preferred contraceptive method of golfers...


in case they get a hole in one!!!!!!






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