Tube Drivers are at it again.

Cleaver

The_White_Horse wrote: »

64,000,000 per year - over 20 years is1.2bn in overpayments. never mind pensions on top.

it does make a vast difference. this is typical lefty nonsense to suggest it doesn't. this is not free money. where is that 1.22bn coming from???

Why are we multiplying it by twenty? It's easier just to compare all things per year, because most things have a yearly budget. But I presume the 1.22bn over twenty years would come out of the billions and billions that TFL gets in income over the same twenty years.

Look, tube trivers wages is less that 1% of the income of TFL. They get paid to much, but even if you managed to cut it by 50% it'd make no difference to much whatsoever. I'm simply saying that if you're really bothered about high public spending then tube driver salaries isn't really the area to focus on, as it's 0.0000001% of anything meaningful.

Cleaver

The_White_Horse wrote: »

SACK THEM ALL AND CLOSE THE TUBE DOWN.

It's these types of lines that means Ijust keep coming back to this forum.

ILW

Give LU to Murdoch to run. He was pretty good a sorting these things, maybe a bit old now though.

Cleaver

ILW wrote: »

Give LU to Murdoch to run. He was pretty good a sorting these things, maybe a bit old now though.

Any decent CEO would do the same as the current one. Tube drivers take up so little of the overall budget that you wouldn't really worry how much they were paid.

chewmylegoff

Cleaver wrote: »

Why are we multiplying it by twenty? It's easier just to compare all things per year, because most things have a yearly budget. But I presume the 1.22bn over twenty years would come out of the billions and billions that TFL gets in income over the same twenty years.

Look, tube trivers wages is less that 1% of the income of TFL. They get paid to much, but even if you managed to cut it by 50% it'd make no difference to much whatsoever. I'm simply saying that if you're really bothered about high public spending then tube driver salaries isn't really the area to focus on, as it's 0.0000001% of anything meaningful.

Tube drivers wages are not less than 1% of tfls budget- they are about 160 million a year. You're right in that it still doesn't amount to much - probably around 2%, although total employment costs are going to be well over double that.

If tube drivers didn't strike all the time I doubt anyone would care what they were paid.

Plus it's just the London equivalent of someone with a car moaning that petrol keeps getting more expensive, really. It's not as if this is the only repeat thread topic on here.

StevieJ

Cleaver wrote: »

Any decent CEO would do the same as the current one. Tube drivers take up so little of the overall budget that you wouldn't really worry how much they were paid.

Cleaver doth protest too much, methinks.
To paraphrase the Bard

No tube driver family have you

I take you point though and shows that normally it would be sensible to look for a job with a capital intensive employer where wages are a small proportion of the cost structure.

ILW

Wages should be set by the ease in which the employee can be replaced. I would have thought that most people could drive a tube with a few months training and many would jump at the chance.

Dan:_4

ILW wrote: »

I would have thought that most people could drive a tube with a few months training and many would jump at the chance.

You thought wrong. The training course is very techincal and demanding. If you pass the course you will then need to spend 6 weeks on further theroy, followed by 6 months stock training - learning about each type of train, every switch, every mechanism, so you can fix a train when it breaks down in a tunnel. Next you have to learn the signals and all the possable shunting positions. Finally you get to learn to drive the trains in a simulator. The whole thing takes about a year.

Sure, the physical moving the trains through the tunnels is probarly the easy part, but there is a lot more knowledge required for when things go wrong.

Ionkontrol

The_White_Horse wrote: »

wake up and smell the roses, these drivers are hated, despised filth and, like the miners, have priced themselves out of a job..

What a despicable excuse for a human being you are. Crawl back under you right wing rock.

The_White_Horse

Ionkontrol wrote: »

What a despicable excuse for a human being you are. Crawl back under you right wing rock.

typical lefty. it's ok for you to have a go at me because i don't have your views but not ok for me to have a go at the overpaid tube drivers.

the irony.

idiot lefties, idiot public sector, idiot unions. it's enough to drive you mad.