Sold as seen, but buyer wants to return car..

bungle4by4

The_Turner wrote: »

Lets hope he don't read this.

i dont mind if he does, i want to see this resolved. Amicably.

but then again, he had the car for the right money, and test drove it, ran it. looked all over it. sat and talked about it as much as he wanted.

Just wanted to say thanks a lot to everyone for all their input in this. Cheers guys.

The_Turner

bungle4by4 wrote: »

mmmm but we talked about so much before he even came to look at it. the problem is the torque converter locks in at 55 miles an hour on the gearbox, and that is effectively your 4th gear. the box itself has 3 gears and so torque converter is 4th.

i drove it when i was first MOT'ed and on the way to my mates. it wouldn't go into 4th. but on the way back it worked like a dream.

its not been any distance at all since then. but that first occurance had me thinking it had a possibilty of reo-occuring. and i so i told the buyer exactly this when he rang. and when he was here. and i thought the problem had been resolved.

but it still played on my mind, that once again the car has sat for an extended period. and it may re-occur. and i didn't think that was worth mentioning. i'd tried to be as honest as possible about it. the fault was 6 months ago. hence i didn't go on about it on my ad.

Sadly you appear to have no evidence the buyer knew about the problem only your word.

Real shame it wasn't mentioned, let's hope it can be sorted.

What was said when he came back with the car?

s_b

i think you should give the buyer his money back irrespective of any law
in my opinion you straddled the whole truth and legged up a buyer out of ebay rules
he knows where you live
he has all the log book
you are up the Swanee
next time describe faults accurately

bungle4by4

The_Turner wrote: »

Sadly you appear to have no evidence the buyer knew about the problem only your word.

Real shame it wasn't mentioned, let's hope it can be sorted.

What was said when he came back with the car?

after he made threats over the phone, i rang the police. and he spoke to them. not me. i have a 6 month old baby it the house. and with his attitude i thought it was best to let the people who deal with this kind of thing to talk to him. It was the right thing to do, it took all the wind out of his sails and he was perfectly decent to the officer.

the police say its a civil matter and won't get involved. and told him he's perfectly at liberty to park it on the public highway. as he is.

so he parked it outside my house.

The_Turner

bungle4by4 wrote: »

after he made threats over the phone, i rang the police. and he spoke to them. not me. i have a 6 month old baby it the house. and with his attitude i thought it was best to let the people who deal with this kind of thing to talk to him. It was the right thing to do, it took all the wind out of his sails and he was perfectly decent to the officer.

the police say its a civil matter and won't get involved. and told him he's perfectly at liberty to park it on the public highway. as he is.

so he parked it outside my house.

Let's hope he's all talk and just pee'd off at buying a car he can't fix. What were his threats?

bungle4by4

The_Turner wrote: »

Let's hope he's all talk and just pee'd off at buying a car he can't fix. What were his threats?

all pleasant stuff about getting his money back in other ways.. lovely.

to the guy who thinks i'm out to do him wrong. i genuinely have spent 900 pounds on a gearbox rebuild and genuinely think its a fault through lack of use. i won't be at all surprised if the fault clears once the box has been through a few drive cycles.

this is why i told them about it over the phone, its a fault that occured 6 months ago, and the car has not been in fault since. the car though, has not been used more than a warm up and drive a mile since.

hence i said intermittant. i would not be at all surprised to hear that the fault has cleared on the next drive.

Poppy9

Did the price he paid for the vehicle reflect the work that maybe needed?

I would be wary of refunding him in case he has taken or exchanged something on the vehicle but if you think you can easily sell it again on Ebay the I would refund and relist. Less hassle.

bungle4by4

the price reflects the work, but as this is a specialist vehicle that is very subjective. my opinion is the car is worth about 2500 as it sits. but then again im very biased. thats why we talked at length about it. to try and get the price we are both happy with.

pinkladyof66

op if you knew the car had this fault did you not think of driving it a bit more yourself to try and clear the fault - i would have been worried about selling a car with a fault as I would automatically think he would come back to complain - if I am selling anything i always will ensure that the item is in good working order - i would be scared to think that i could sell on something dodgy

vaio

If I was the buyer then argument I’d be using is that in the Ebay advert you say “I’ll try and list all the faults” and then go on to list really minor things like a leak from the sunroof and a loose wire but fail to mention something significant like a gearbox fault.

I’m not saying he will win a court case (if it comes to it) but that ebay add certainly counts against you and that’s before you consider the “he said/she said” aspects, the lottery that is small claims or the potential costs if you loose.

If it sold for the right money I think I’d be tempted to try and arrange some sort of amicable (ish?) solution even if that means giving him a refund. There will always be another buyer along.