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How sad ....here we have a young man who obviously will never reach his full potential because his mother cannot and will not see that she needs to encourage him out rather than defend him.
But hey - winter is coming on - he can stay and watch daytime TV with mum ...what a future he can look forward to!
How very, very sad
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It seems to me that the young man's mother is encouraging him to take time off sick at the slightest sign of a cough or cold. Being out in cold weather is not going to make any difference to his cold, and it might even toughen him up a bit.
She needs to stop pandering to him, and unless he is clearly VERY ill, he needs to go to work. I have a son of 21, who has not had a day off sick from work ever. He has a congenital heart condition, but that doesn't stop him. There was one occasion when he was really quite ill with a temperature of 40c, and his boss insisted he go home. He still tried to argue he was ok to work!
This young man is fit and able - he should hardly ever need to take time off sick. I would get him to try and grovel to get his job back rather than encourage him by agreeing that it's ok to tell his boss to shove off!
He's unlikely to get JSA, and quite frankly he doesn't deserve it. He needs to get out there and get a job - any job - build up a good reference by not taking sick leave, and then look for a better job.0 -
My original question was regarding whether he could claim JSA very few people have answered this question, instead they seem to rip apart my son for being ill and standing up for himself.
Well im done with this now. I have the answer I originally asked for.
Sarah you should have resisted the bait after you had your answer.
Many offer advice on here,some like the chase and some like to rise to the bait !
Good luck to your son in finding some work and just to let you know my window cleaner works 12 months a year !"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain."
''Money can't buy you happiness but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery.''0 -
If the teacher called you at 2pm to collect him from school, he was not well enough to be there and certainly not well enough to go the next day, even taking his bottle of drowsiness inducing calpol with him.
Well, you seem an expert then, know even better than my own doctor! Are you one yourself? Yes, the teacher called at 2pm said that my DB was struggling a bit, but would be ok until 3pm, and yes, I am one of those mums who don't rush out calling for an emergency because my boy is not feeling great. I too have worked feeling rough, I survived....She sneezed and spluttered constantly, once with her face inches from mine. Consequentley I caught it and was ill all over the Christmas holidays.
Well, that's the problem, not the virus itself. What your colleague should have done is not stay home but learn about hand hygiene. If all did this, the chances of catching something from work would be greatly reduced.0 -
If he was a small child I wouldn't of sent him to school, much better at home to get better and also not infecting everyone else with it!
And maybe that's why he is now an adult who doesn't understand why his boss had an issue with his sickness record and why he ended up sacked...I really don't think he needs to be apologising. I don't think it's ok for his employer to have digs at him for his sickness, my son wouldn't make comments or digs to his boss when he's off sick, or when he's taken his relative to hospital and my son cant work and isn't earning any money.
You really don't get it... you son is accountable to his boss, his boss is not accountable to his employee. If he doesn't like it, then maybe he needs to consider self-employment, then again, he will also need to learn the concept that the client is always right, which might be an issue if he thinks he can tell his boss off just because he made a comment about his sickness record.Perhaps giving the job up was the best thing because as bad weather comes he wouldn't be working anyway and have no money.
No it wasn't at all. What he should have done is swallowed his anger and kept quiet and use his spare time to apply for another job. This way he wouldn't have been out of money and would have a proper reference to provide, which he now doesn't have.0 -
Im with Fbaby, my kids went to school if they were not ill enough to be in bed, I spoke to the school about it and they wanted more parents like me as some parents (like sarah) think one cough and the kids are dying or more likely the parents were to lazy to get the kids to school;), the school always knew the children were under the weather and that they could ring at any time and the children would be collected if they were to ill to manage at school but 99.9% of the time they perked up and got on with their job (getting educated and not just learning whatever the teacher gave them but that you MUST fulfil your obligations if you possibley can)
He can apply for JSA, wether he gets it or not is a diffrent matter and I hope he dosnt because he needs to learn an important lesson and his mother is not going to teach him it!0 -
sueturnersmith wrote: »It seems to me that the young man's mother is encouraging him to take time off sick at the slightest sign of a cough or cold. Being out in cold weather is not going to make any difference to his cold, and it might even toughen him up a bit.
She needs to stop pandering to him, and unless he is clearly VERY ill, he needs to go to work. I have a son of 21, who has not had a day off sick from work ever. He has a congenital heart condition, but that doesn't stop him. There was one occasion when he was really quite ill with a temperature of 40c, and his boss insisted he go home. He still tried to argue he was ok to work!
This young man is fit and able - he should hardly ever need to take time off sick. I would get him to try and grovel to get his job back rather than encourage him by agreeing that it's ok to tell his boss to shove off!
He's unlikely to get JSA, and quite frankly he doesn't deserve it. He needs to get out there and get a job - any job - build up a good reference by not taking sick leave, and then look for a better job.
My ex husband was like that and he had suppressed immunity...mind you, the answer his boss gave him when ex hubby said he was still ok to come into work with chickenpox is unprintable! :rotfl:We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.0 -
Im with Fbaby, my kids went to school if they were not ill enough to be in bed, I spoke to the school about it and they wanted more parents like me as some parents (like sarah) think one cough and the kids are dying or more likely the parents were to lazy to get the kids to school;), the school always knew the children were under the weather and that they could ring at any time and the children would be collected if they were to ill to manage at school but 99.9% of the time they perked up and got on with their job (getting educated and not just learning whatever the teacher gave them but that you MUST fulfil your obligations if you possibley can)
He can apply for JSA, wether he gets it or not is a diffrent matter and I hope he dosnt because he needs to learn an important lesson and his mother is not going to teach him it!
I have the opposite with the school, one cough and they are on the phone to me to come pick youngest up....he has severe asthma and over the last 3 years has been hospitalised several times in intensive care and I think it freaks them out a tad. Even if he appears just a tiny bit under the weather (a little sleepy or lack of energy), they are asking me to pick him up as an emergency.We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.0 -
I have the opposite with the school, one cough and they are on the phone to me to come pick youngest up....he has severe asthma and over the last 3 years has been hospitalised several times in intensive care and I think it freaks them out a tad. Even if he appears just a tiny bit under the weather (a little sleepy or lack of energy), they are asking me to pick him up as an emergency.
I can see the schools point of view with your son and its because he is diffrent to a child with mild ashma like my kids have, he has serious ashma (brittle?) and it is life threatening so they dont want him to need an ambulance called for him while hes at school, we lost a relative to ashma a while ago and it can be frightening because you fine one minute and in ITU the next.0 -
My daughter has to pay a set amount of keep each month in our house. It doesn't change depending on what hours she works. I have worked for many many many employers who have given me a hard time, treated me badly but I took it on the chin, accepted that I was their employee and got on with my work. I have worked for 14 years in the same job and have a fantastic sickness record, my daughter who is now at work also rarely takes time off work. I hope she leads by example.0
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