UPS UKASH UKCASH Gumtree Scam and scams in general

rimmy

jackpot, thanks and glad you dodged it. Can you add a link to the gumtree ad or item number this concerns, please

cheekychap00

both emails deborah regan and the parcelforce one originate in california
that does not mean the scammers are in california
john

JackpotUK

The ad has now been taken down as I reported it to Gumtree.
The same happens if you report it.

Actually, looking thru the threads, dating back quite some months, I'm APPALLED that Gumtree aren't doing anything about this! They should be vetting the ads and if any come in with a gmail and 75 in it, they should report it to the police and not put the ad up.

Persons after persons after persons are being caught out by this scam, and for money they can ill afford. It's disgusting.

Are trading standings, the fraud squad, police or anybody else doing anything about this? Or are decent people going to continue getting scammed by these vermin?

cheekychap00

keep the postings going it certainly is helping people avoid this scam
john

Andyram2k

Hi,

Just wanted to say a big thanks to this forum for helping me confirm it was a scam. I make e-mail templates as part of my job and know Parcel Force isn't going to have a tiny picture of a truck on theirs and it would be fully branded and items tracked.

Andy

GTK

This thread is excellent.

But, what I don’t understand, is after the UKCASH/Police are notified that a voucher code has been obtained through fraudulent deception, then why can’t the Police “trace” the voucher’s use in the UKCASH system to try and stop it or identify the owner?

If I knowingly sold on a “stolen” art picture worth £100k, then I would be guilty of a crime. Is there a parallel with UKCASH actively allowing use of vouchers known to be obtained by deception to then be transacted? Likewise, if “one” Gumtree email account is known to be associated with fraud to one ad, then are Gumtree liable for negligence in allowing the same email account to be used to sell any other items?

Also. Can an appropriate Authority update the scammer’s google user's home profile web-page with “comments” saying this account is subject to Police investigation for serious repeated fraud activities? Would be great if the the BBC Watchdog (or similar) could do this!

GTK
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rimmy

GTK wrote: »

This thread is excellent.

But, what I don’t understand, is after the UKCASH/Police are notified that a voucher code has been obtained through fraudulent deception, then why can’t the Police “trace” the voucher’s use in the UKCASH system to try and stop it or identify the owner?

If I knowingly sold on a “stolen” art picture worth £100k, then I would be guilty of a crime. Is there a parallel with UKCASH actively allowing use of vouchers known to be obtained by deception to then be transacted? Likewise, if “one” Gumtree email account is known to be associated with fraud to one ad, then are Gumtree liable for negligence in allowing the same email account to be used to sell any other items?

Also. Can an appropriate Authority update the scammer’s google user's home profile web-page with “comments” saying this account is subject to Police investigation for serious repeated fraud activities? Would be great if the the BBC Watchdog (or similar) could do this!

GTK
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Just been on phone to fraud officer about your first paragraph.

The police do request the details of the individual claiming the voucher money but there are limitations.
1) the act that police use to retrieve the identity of the fraudster only covers the uK, therefore if the cash has been claimed outside of our borders then Ukash are not at liberty to disclose those details
2) even if ukash did disclose the details for an offshore fraudster then the trace would probably just show a basic name which was also likely to be fabricated. so the record might show it was claimed by Deborah Regan, but she probably doesn't exist. Nothing else is kept, apparently.

Yes, I think you are right - what is required is a way to intercept the messages or for gumtree to place on each advert template a message stating that no Ukash/ Western Union or similar should be used. Only pay cash and in person. On every advert and every gumtree routed email. That would make a massive difference in my opinion, and I think that should be a recommendation to Gumtree.

EDIT: In fact we have evidence of one advert above where the advert header was 'hacked' and stated 'do not use this advert it is a fraud' If only we could understand how such a message was amended...

BarryP.

The infamous Kate Porter has another advert on Gumtree for a Canon 100-400 EF lens. price is £430 which is about half the going rate for this lens on EBay. I contacted the seller via Gumtree and received the same email that has been quoted already on this thread relating to other goods supposedly for sale by Kate Porter but I decided the price was too cheap and decided to do a search on her name which led me to this thread. The email address sent to me is kate75porter@gmail.com and the phone number which never rings is 07973425052
I will definitely not be trying to send her any money for a non existent camera lens.
I have reported the ad to Gumtree so hopefully they will remove it.
Ad ref number is 1002291256

tyronealan

thank god for mse!!! just checked before i sent the photo scan of the ukash voucher i just purchased on this site and boy am i glad. like a lot of folks here i've bought a lot of tinternet and never really been scammed. This needs to be stamped out. was quite convinced by all emails but have realised they are like all above with the same name now using parcelforce. i emailed for an address and still haven't recieved a reply!!Funny that!!!
BTW HOW DO I GET MY CASH BACK FROM MY UKASH VOUCHER??????

rimmy

smally, I am glad you found us. pleas ecan you edit your post and include the link to gumtree advert or the ID code?

For refund of ukash I think you need to go back to shop or transfer it to a card or use it with an authorised website. pls see https://www.ukash.com but i dont know as i lost my money to a scam

in my opinion uikash is a bit crap!