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UPS UKASH UKCASH Gumtree Scam and scams in general

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  • sorry it was not watchdog but dom littlewood site
    but it is now also rogue traders
    thats for that amduffy
    john
    GUMTREE UKASH PARCELFORCE SCAM
    RT HON DAVID CAMERON 10 DOWNING ST
    LONDON SW1 2A
    EMAIL.NUMBER10.GOV.UK
    FAX 020 7925 0918
  • rimmy
    rimmy Posts: 43 Forumite
    thanks posted fake emails to parcelforce via their suspicious calls/ emails website
    sent my full dozier to dom little somthing website via channel5 website
    and
    after getting told that my money had gone on sat by ukash
    went onto their site raised a complaint on 2 points and want money back
    1 ukash negligence in letting this same scam continue for 2 years
    2 ukash business model flawed by encouraging money laundering and scams
    they are regulated by the financial services authority
    and if i dont get my money back will make a complaint on the 2 above points to the financial services authority
    and if stlll no money will make a complaint to the ombudsman
    this scam cannot continue
    has any one made a small claims against gumtree for their negligence
    john

    Cheekychappy, can you provide details on how to word and submit the claim to UKash pls, so we can follow with a similar template? I, like you, think that Ukash are culpable in this for allowing it to continue. So need to put the pressure on them as well as Gumtree.
  • rimmy
    rimmy Posts: 43 Forumite
    just got a reply from cowboytraders
    the channel5 website saying
    if we feel your tip is something we may be able to explore further, one of our team will be in touch with you
    and they have asked for a daytime telephone number
    you should send them a copy of your catalogue
    john

    Fantastic, send a link to this thread also, as it documents 15 pages of posts concerning this, which goes back some time.
  • cheekychap00
    cheekychap00 Posts: 90 Forumite
    edited 4 November 2012 at 8:46PM
    what i did was go the ukash website
    top of page contact us
    then you eventually get to the part with a small window pane
    where you enter all your details
    and remember on the top of this window there is a flip down menu select complaint and there is plenty of space to write even though it looks small
    you get an reply saying they will be in touch within 24 hours
    you must also enter the last 6 numbers of your 16 number on the voucher
    i had mine but if you dont enter 6 numbers a good example is 654321 it wil not pass to them tell them why you have chosen 123456 or whatever if you dont have voucher to hand
    also i linked this website and whocallsme website
    to roguetraders and doms fake britain(cowboy traders)
    hope this helps as this is serious fraud office material
    GUMTREE UKASH PARCELFORCE SCAM
    RT HON DAVID CAMERON 10 DOWNING ST
    LONDON SW1 2A
    EMAIL.NUMBER10.GOV.UK
    FAX 020 7925 0918
  • rimmy
    rimmy Posts: 43 Forumite
    Based on what you said Cheekychap00, I have also drafted an email to send to UKash, based on the two complains you stated. Happy to pass this on via Private Message to anyone wanting to tailor a complaint to UKash for their own refund? If so, let me know or I can post here for comment and discussion.
    rimmy.
  • also notice that a site called scambook.com has recent complaints where british people are sueing gumtree for their losses re pamela hogan and deborah regan
    the circle widens
    i will wait to see what gumtree have to say to me when they reply to my complaint
    john
    GUMTREE UKASH PARCELFORCE SCAM
    RT HON DAVID CAMERON 10 DOWNING ST
    LONDON SW1 2A
    EMAIL.NUMBER10.GOV.UK
    FAX 020 7925 0918
  • cheekychap00
    cheekychap00 Posts: 90 Forumite
    edited 5 November 2012 at 8:06AM
    this thread has had 33,000 views
    there are other websites with the same thread and thousands of views
    i have just created an e petition at gov.com
    and chosen the attorney generals office as they are appointed to look after the publics interest
    the petition can take up to 7 days to be passed before it is on the website
    the title is
    DEBORAH REGAN SCAM HOLDING UKASH AND GUMTREE TO ACCOUNT TO CHANGE THEIR BUSINESS MODEL AS IT PROMOTES MONEY LAUNDERING
    if it is passed it will need i think 100,000 signatures in 3 months to go before government
    john
    GUMTREE UKASH PARCELFORCE SCAM
    RT HON DAVID CAMERON 10 DOWNING ST
    LONDON SW1 2A
    EMAIL.NUMBER10.GOV.UK
    FAX 020 7925 0918
  • rimmy
    rimmy Posts: 43 Forumite
    My Email template to UKash below
    [begins]
    Dear Customer Services,

    I write to request a full refund for fraudulent redemption of a voucher I purchased.

    Specifically, my voucher was taken in connection with a fraudulent advert on Gumtree, and I did not authorise this. This issue is well documented online and without doubt is with the attention of UKash management. I phoned to declare this and have a customer services reference number of: xxxx too.

    My complaint is this issue is ongoing and no evidence is apparent of UKash making reasonable efforts to redress this. The same defrauder is repeatedly abusing the public via UKash in this scam and therefore I argue:
    i) UKash is negligent in letting this same scam continue for over two years.
    ii) UKash business model being flawed by encouraging money laundering and scams and not providing sufficient safeguards to protect its customers.

    I have traweled your corporate website and found low-level tips including "Don’t Be a Victim of Fraud. Treat your Ukash voucher code just like cash. Only use Ukash with merchants listed at the Ukash website. Never use Ukash to pay for items purchased from classified ads or give the voucher code to anyone else. Protect Yourself from Fraud"

    However there is nothing on my voucher that is denoted as a 'Code', I have a PIN, but no code. So the terminology isn't even consistent between website/voucher if these in fact refer to the same? (website screen print of above statement has been taken)

    If UKash refuse to reinstate my money in full I'll look to make a complaint on the above two points to the Financial Services Authority, and then the Ombudsman if still not satisfied. Details have been passed to UK consumer protection and I will seek to follow with media consumer affairs if I am not satisfied with the outcomes.

    Regards,

    [ends]
  • cheekychap00
    cheekychap00 Posts: 90 Forumite
    edited 5 November 2012 at 4:45PM
    also everyone scammed or nearly scammed
    pass on full details to
    [EMAIL="abuse@gmail.com"]abuse@gmail.com[/EMAIL]
    including emails received and sent by this lowlife
    and see if gmail close these letterboxes and hopefully
    they may pass on details to the police

    and also remember that the money is stolen and ukash makes a profit on every transaction - that makes them a party to moneylaundering due to the fact they know exactly what is going on and hide behind terms and conditions
    jimmy s (my word myword) the dj its only jimmy said the beeb
    NO ITS NOT ITS PEDAFILIA
    PPI said the banks like it or lump it
    we didnt like it or lump it WE FOUGHT BACK
    terms and conditions RUBBISH
    The best selling newspaper closed its doors news o d world why
    it was using low life tactics
    look at all the politicians caught out and kicked out in disgrace
    FIGHT FOR A SOCIETY THAT SHOWS DECENCY AND HIGH MORALS

    This will go all the way and eventually after the financial authority and the ombudsman is done we may have a new business model fron ukash that says

    Everyone of our retailers is insured against scams/theft so that you our customer (thats a laugh) will receive an immediate refund if you have been the victem of a proven scam
    john
    GUMTREE UKASH PARCELFORCE SCAM
    RT HON DAVID CAMERON 10 DOWNING ST
    LONDON SW1 2A
    EMAIL.NUMBER10.GOV.UK
    FAX 020 7925 0918
  • dgtjunior
    dgtjunior Posts: 18 Forumite
    edited 5 November 2012 at 4:26PM
    thanks posted fake emails to parcelforce via their suspicious calls/ emails website
    sent my full dozier to dom little somthing website via channel5 website
    and
    after getting told that my money had gone on sat by ukash
    went onto their site raised a complaint on 2 points and want money back
    1 ukash negligence in letting this same scam continue for 2 years
    2 ukash business model flawed by encouraging money laundering and scams
    they are regulated by the financial services authority
    and if i dont get my money back will make a complaint on the 2 above points to the financial services authority
    and if stlll no money will make a complaint to the ombudsman
    this scam cannot continue
    has any one made a small claims against gumtree for their negligence
    john

    Good for you John. I got scammed and too took it up with UKASH stating negligence on their part for letting the scam continue for so long. I got a refund from them . You need to file a claim on paper though via their downloadable forms. See my previous posts on here for info on how to it. Don't let it drop, be terrier like, its the only way.

    I got caught a month ago by Pam Hogan, and I can't believe how many more people have been scammed since then. UKASH need to address their business model urgently, you are right; it just encourages fraud. I pointed this out to them in my claim. The problem is they make money whoever cashes the vouchers, so it seems they couldn't give a toss either way. In fact I suspect they may even be happy to let it continue. Lets hope Rogue Trader gets on their case.
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