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stevebeechmount59 wrote: »I informed them that they had a unique order number on each package, but they've said all packages were emptied by TIC on arrival.
One can't help but think that they did this deliberately so they could keep the leftover stock without paying for it.
Cheeky **** if they did.0 -
If they have not officially made you an offer of money, i.e. sent you a cheque, then they are holding property which still legally belongs to you. If they, or the liquidators, do not return it it is theft. Greater Manchester Police can then get involved! This is the cause of action which I will be taking....I am writing to the liquidators, recorded delivery of course, to say that my property should not be treated as company assets as I have entered into no sale agreement. If the company do not return my property I will be reporting the theft to GMP; I will write to the company demanding the immediate return of my property or I will report them to GMP for theft.
They will probably try and fob me off by saying that all the boxes were emptied and contents cannot be traced back to source but that is their problem! They have items which legally belong to me therefore, if they do not return them, or in the case of the liquidators sell them as company assets, they will be reported for theft!0 -
Yes, exactly what I was thinking when they informed me. No information on the creditors meeting at UHY Manchester as yet. Anyone heard anything?0
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If they have not officially made you an offer of money, i.e. sent you a cheque, then they are holding property which still legally belongs to you. If they, or the liquidators, do not return it it is theft. Greater Manchester Police can then get involved! This is the cause of action which I will be taking....I am writing to the liquidators, recorded delivery of course, to say that my property should not be treated as company assets as I have entered into no sale agreement. If the company do not return my property I will be reporting the theft to GMP; I will write to the company demanding the immediate return of my property or I will report them to GMP for theft.
They will probably try and fob me off by saying that all the boxes were emptied and contents cannot be traced back to source but that is their problem! They have items which legally belong to me therefore, if they do not return them, or in the case of the liquidators sell them as company assets, they will be reported for theft!
Interesting legwynis, I hadn't even considered that course of action. I also view it as theft if my items are not returned to me as soon as possible.
I informed the above company that title only passes once the goods have been 'accepted'. In the case of my CDs/DVDs, TIC's final communication notified me that my goods had been 'received and were awaiting testing'. Therefore, they had not been 'accepted' under the terms of The Sale of Goods Act, as something had to be done to them(Testing) prior to acceptance. This means they remain my property. I have not even received an email as others have regarding my property. Anyway, I informed Dallas Campbell on Friday 25th May 2012, that I wanted my claim for the return of my property registered so they can't now say they were not aware of it.
According to Kirsty Lowe of Dallas Campbell, a creditors meeting was due to take place today (28th May 2012) at 11.30am at the offices of UHY Hacker Young(Chartered Accountants) 79 Oxford Street, Manchester, M1 - 6HT - Tel: 0161 236 6936.
It was to be attended by Nick Hancock and Derek Forsyth of Campbell Dallas, based in Glasgow. Tel : 0141 - 886 6644. If anyone can provide any further information it would be appreciated. Can anyone suggest a template letter to send to the liquidators?0 -
Anyone else have further advice or news on the TIC situation?0
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Well they have £75 worth of my stuff and to add insult to injury I recently took court a claim out against them (which cost me another £25) just days before they went bust.
I haven't even had the email from them confirming they've gone into liquidation. Feel very angry and pretty helpless.0 -
Well, I'm seriously considering taking the course of action suggested by legwynis. I'm going to contact the liquidation company concerned(Dallas Campbell, Glasgow) by recorded letter, and demand the return of MY goods, or if not, the full value originally offered by TIC prior to delivery.
If they become difficult and stubborn, defy my wishes and proceed to sell my goods against my express wishes not to, claiming them to be company assets, they will give me no alternative but to consider it as theft. It is absolutely not unreasonable for me or you, or anyone to demand the return of our property. I have already made them aware verbally that they are not entitled to sell on my goods, as they are NOT company assets and remain my property.
Lets' face it, if this is a fair company, they should realise that and make every effort to accomodate our wishes. Afterall, it is not our fault that the TIC has gone bust, so why should we have to be financially penalised for it? Why should I have to allow my property to be sold to pay off other creditors, and then accept a pittance or crumbs at the end of it - if I'm lucky? What an absolutely outrageous state of affairs this is turning out to be.
Personally, I'm not going to let this rest until I recieve a satisfactory outcome and neither should anyone else owed money from TIC.0 -
Just wondering if anyone has any further news on the Turn Into Cash liquidation?0
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[FONT="][text deleted by MSE forum team] I have been reading the comments with interest. Unfortunately there seems to be many victims and many seem to have taken a recommendation from this site, as a mark of quality, regarding this company. Good to see Martin and his team did their due diligence. Now we're all in a position of needing help, where is the guy who proudly flaunts the banner "Fighting Your Corner"?
Fair enough he was probably taken in, just admit and help us with any advice he can give, regarding the insolvency process. I hope he has the decency to help and not walk away, to avoid the association with a rogue company.
The up to date position, as I understand it is, Dallas Campbell have been confirmed as the insolvency practice to complete the exercise, following the meeting in Manchester (some got letters to confirm this but it is all part of the standard process).
With regards to the insolvency issue and talking to Dallas Campbell today, they are just going through the motions. The company assets are being identified and the creditors confirmed. Like you and I, we are at the bottom and are unlikely to get much, if anything. Nice idea about the Sales Of Goods Act angle, I hope it works (please let us know). Unfortunately Dallas Campbell are sticking to the unidentifiable line, even if you have the full list of items sent etc. I would imagine a solicitor will be needed, to get that proved and we are fortunately owed far less than a couple of hours of their time.
Timescale for any refund is likely to be at least 6 months+.
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Best of luck everyone, keep in touch, maybe Mr Lewis will offer some help or assistance[/FONT]0 -
Fired off a letter to Dallas Campbell today(Recorded delivery of course) demanding return of my property. Probably going to fob me off with a load of bull, but heh, it's the principle of the thing and nothing ventured - nothing gained and all that.
BTW, agree about Martin Lewis's lack of contribution. Couldn't he at least offer any help or assistance on this? Anyway, I'll report back once I've heard from the liquidators or have any other news or advice to report?0
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