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Not yet, as until now i've had absolutely no cause to!. I believed that no E.A would be acting, in what appears to be a dis-honest or at least unethical fashion, and not just one if those listings are correct!. Surely if this is the case then its a clear breach (and possibly prosecution territory) if they are not complying with local council tax legalities?, I found those properties in literally a minute search, if its so open and rife then why exactly are they allowed to continue to act in such a manner?.have youy tried the local Council web-site to find out if
a) the property you occupy has a separate CT bill - because it sounds like it needs one
b) the LL has planning permission for a separate dwelling?
If I cast the search net even wider then there are many more, all doing exactly the same thing
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-31667755.html
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-19835736.html"Dont expect anybody else to support you, maybe you have a trust fund, maybe you have a wealthy spouse, but you never know when each one, might run out" - Mary Schmich0 -
Not yet, as until now i've had absolutely no cause to!. I believed that no E.A would not be acting, in what appears to be a dis-honest fashion. Surely if this is the case then its a clear breach (and possibly prosecution territory) if they are not complying with local council tax legalities?, I found those properties in literally a minute search, if I can find them, then why exactly are they allowed to continue to act in such a manner.
If I cast the search net even wider then there are many more, all doing exactly the same thing
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-31667755.html
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-19835736.html
The first one is definately a separate dwelling and needs its own CT assessment.
What I am beginning to suspect is that these householders have created this separate space to let but never told the Council and never had a CT assessment done.
That would mean that they decide to charge a portion of their CT rather than get a second CT bill for their rental premises.
The pub for instance probably used that accomodation for temporary staff and they may well have accessed it from inside the building originally.
Read this thread https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3567537If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0 -
I think we need further advice from CIS who knows the ropes but I think this http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-31573225.html would be covered by joint CT bills but this one would not http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-14408728.html
Probably both properties for which the tenant would be liable (99% certain) but there's not enough detail to say 100% (the second one may be not be banded separately) . Landlord and Managing Agent should be up front over the rent/council tax and not mislead the tenants.I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.0 -
Probably both properties for which the tenant would be liable (99% certain) but there's not enough detail to say 100% (the second one may be not be banded separately) . Landlord and Managing Agent should be up front over the rent/council tax and not mislead the tenants.
Which politely means that all these tenants could get hit by a Council tax bill on top of the money they are paying the LL?If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0 -
The first one is definately a separate dwelling and needs its own CT assessment.
What I am beginning to suspect is that these householders have created this separate space to let but never told the Council and never had a CT assessment done.
I would tend to agree.I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.0 -
Which politely means that all these tenants could get hit by a Council tax bill on top of the money they are paying the LL?
Correct. The tenant would then need to pursue the landlord through the civil courts if needed to get the money back - I've seen similar cases turn very nasty but on the other hand I've also seen tenants paying where it should have been the landlord paying and we've had to bill the landlord and refund the tenant.I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.0 -
I would tend to agree.
And of course the last thing they want is for the tenant contacting the Council about the CT liability? So they tell them it is covered.
I wonder how they fix this with the HMRC re their tax bill and deductions?If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0 -
I wonder how they fix this with the HMRC re their tax bill and deductions?
In disputes over whether a property was tenanted and they cant provide tenancy agreements or contracts we often ask to see evidence of rental payments. If they cant provide them we will ask for evidence of their tax return to show the property was generating income - usually its 'with the accountant' or 'lost'....I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.0 -
Just out of interest, what if anything, are the differences in C/T liability for a property which is rented out by the LL for holiday accom and one which has a tenant (six month term)"Dont expect anybody else to support you, maybe you have a trust fund, maybe you have a wealthy spouse, but you never know when each one, might run out" - Mary Schmich0
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Just out of interest, what if anything, are the differences in C/T liability for a property which is rented out by the LL for holiday accom and one which has a tenant (six month term)
Holiday accommodation would likely fall for business rates if purely let for that purpose otherwise it would be the landlord liable for the council tax at what ever rate the local area sets for a furnished & unoccupied home (as it would be no-ones sole or main residence).
For a 6 month tenancy the tenant would be liable (unless it was an HMO).I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.0
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