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Moving to 3 bed house?!!?

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  • elff
    elff Posts: 194 Forumite
    Babies dont count untill they are 1... then they are counted as 1/2 untill they are 10 boys and girls share untill oldest reaches 10 (then usally for a long time after) you WILL only recieve the 2 bed LHA for this.

    Some councils will insist on counting the living room as a bedroom so it would be unlikley they would move you even if your children were at qualifing age as you could sleep in the living room - therefore giving the kids their 'own' bedroom.

    We live in a 2 bed flat boys in one room girl in another we tried sharing with them all but none of the 3 would settle so we slept in the living room - we have since moved to the 'cuboard' very small double bed touch all three sides ;) but have living space back. I had twins so they are counted as one qualifing person and we get a 3 bed LHA rate for the 2 bed flat we have (dont get much as DH works his butt off but it does help towards the rent)

    The council may be able to provide the 'bond' for a private rent - but if i were you i wouldn't give up the council place you have as i doubt you would get another one.
  • FireWyrm
    FireWyrm Posts: 6,557 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Debt-free and Proud!
    I don't often rise to the bait either, but it annoys me that I pay obscene amounts of tax to fund other's lavish lifestyle while my two girls have a share a room! I don't get housing benefit because I'm stupid enough to have a job and somehow I still have to make ends meet. OP, stop having children, or be prepared to double them up. You are not entitled to a new 3 bed house just because you have more children and if most of the tax layers in this country had their own way, you wouldnt even have the house you do either. Try and be a little humble and thankful since my children have to go without so yours don't.
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  • lazer
    lazer Posts: 3,402 Forumite
    My DH is one of 6 (3 boys & 3 girls with 10 years separating the eldest from my DH and twin sister - apparently they were an 'accident' btw ;)) and they were brought up in an ex-council house with 3 bedrooms. The 3 girls shared the largest room, the 3 boys the middle room and their parents had the smallest. They managed perfectly well for years - although I guess it must have been difficult when the elder two wanted to bring boyfriends/girlfriends home and their room was shared with two younger siblings! Both parents worked but despite this they couldn't afford to move to a larger house and also they were content where they were with the space (or lack of it!) they had.............

    Sorry - but I have to pick up on something in this - do parents actually let their sons and daughters bring boyfriends or girlfriends home and share their bed?

    At what age do you start allowing this, and is it for all boyfriends and girlfriends or do they have to be together for a certain length of time?

    I'm 28 and when I bring my boyfriend home (who I have been with for around 8 years) he has to sleep in my brothers room.
    I have only just moved home again about a year ago after moving out when I was 18 - so its hard to adjust too again.

    Back to the OP - although you have a lot reponses saying why should you get a bigger house etc.
    The way the system works is that you do, if the oldest child is over 10 and they are a boy and girl.

    Yes - it is unfair on the homeowners, private renters etc, but well they do have the option to sell up and move, or rent a bigger house.
    Its up to everyone to do what suits their own circumstances, and it does seem as if LHA tenents get it easy sometimes butits government policy - don't blame those who benefit from the policy, blame those that make it!
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  • lazer
    lazer Posts: 3,402 Forumite
    FireWyrm wrote: »
    I don't often rise to the bait either, but it annoys me that I pay obscene amounts of tax to fund other's lavish lifestyle while my two girls have a share a room! I don't get housing benefit because I'm stupid enough to have a job and somehow I still have to make ends meet. OP, stop having children, or be prepared to double them up. You are not entitled to a new 3 bed house just because you have more children and if most of the tax layers in this country had their own way, you wouldnt even have the house you do either. Try and be a little humble and thankful since my children have to go without so yours don't.

    With 2 girls, they would usually be expected to share a room anyway, so even if you were a Housing association tenent, you wouldn't get a 3 bed house.
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  • Lovelyjoolz
    Lovelyjoolz Posts: 1,070 Forumite
    edited 1 November 2011 at 3:13PM
    lazer wrote: »
    Sorry - but I have to pick up on something in this - do parents actually let their sons and daughters bring boyfriends or girlfriends home and share their bed?

    Yes, some, perhaps many, parents do. At 19 (20 years ago) I regularly used to spend the night at my boyfriends house in his bed. His parents were fine with that, although I was 21 before my parents felt comfortable enough to allow us to share my bed at home.

    We have allowed my OH's son to have his girlfriend stay over in the past, and step-daughters boyfriend stays regularly.

    I'm sure your parents have good reasons why they don't want you sharing a bed under their roof. It IS their home after all.
    lazer wrote: »
    Yes - it is unfair on the homeowners, private renters etc, but well they do have the option to sell up and move, or rent a bigger house.

    What most people here are upset about is that homeowners often do not have the option to sell and move, because they don't earn enough to afford the mortgage on a larger house. And really, why should those who don't work be better off that those that do?
    You had me at your proper use of "you're".
  • Yes, some, perhaps many, parents do. At 19 (20 years ago) I regularly used to spend the night at my boyfriends house in his bed. His parents were fine with that, although I was 21 before my parents felt comfortable enough to allow us to share my bed at home.

    We have allowed my OH's son to have his girlfriend stay over in the past, and step-daughters boyfriend stays regularly.

    I'm sure your parents have good reasons why they don't want you sharing a bed under their roof. It IS their home after all.



    What most people here are upset about is that homeowners often do not have the option to sell and move, because they don't earn enough to afford the mortgage on a larger house. And really, why should those who don't work be better off that those that do?

    That last sentence sums it up nicely.
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  • debrag
    debrag Posts: 3,426 Forumite
    edited 1 November 2011 at 3:51PM
    shegirl wrote: »
    Surprisingly,most HAs and councils do allow it.The only rule for most regarding extra rooms is that you can only swap with a property that has one room more than you need.I think it's quite wrong but plenty do it! I've helped my dad try to exchange recently and the amount of people on swapping sites trying to swap for an extra room because they fancy a bigger house is astonishing,and they actually manage it!!!

    Wasn't allowed when we swapped, we had a 5 bed house and wanted to swap with a family of 4 kids but weren't allowed, could be due to their ages maybe - 1 boy in college, 1 boy doing GCSE's & 2 girls junior/senior school age I think.


    My partner grew up in the 5 bed house with 9 kids in total. The house was tiny with 2 bedrooms very small box rooms.
  • I would be one of the first to say that if you can't afford to have a child, then you should't have one. But we can't pretend that unplanned pregnancies don't happen. Perhaps if we educated our kids more explicitly and strongly on safe sex, it wouldn't. But we haven't.

    The anger being aimed at this young lady is unfair.

    We should all be more angry at the government rewarding all of those bankers for their failures, by bailing them out to the tune of £1.5 trillion !!!!!!

    Yet we somehow are more able to get angry at the single mother reliant on the government for support. This government are very good at getting us plebs to turn against ourselves.

    Get angry at the idiots in the glass towers before you get angry at the single mother. Wake up people.
  • lazer wrote: »
    Sorry - but I have to pick up on something in this - do parents actually let their sons and daughters bring boyfriends or girlfriends home and share their bed?

    Most do, we don't.
  • monalia
    monalia Posts: 42 Forumite
    pizzle84 wrote: »
    But the room isn't big enough for 2 and what if the next one is a girl, are they still meant to share?
    Yes pizzle84, you can rent a three, four, five bedrrom home with or without dressing rooms and a swimming pool when you can afford it.

    What do you expect the taxpayer to do when you will have eight children? A nine bedroom house then??? Children have shared bedrooms for generations and as far as I can tell it has advantages and disadvantages.
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