Christening....which religion.....

Torry_Quine

meritaten wrote: »

I too am well aware that the correct term is 'denomination' - but being of a slightly older generation, know that when someone asked 'what religion are you' they generally meant denomination!
This was the commonly used word up until very recently!

I can assure you that I've never meant denomination when I said religion and never came across it in general useage.

If someone asked me what religion I am I wouldn't say Baptist but Christian as I think the denomination is very definatley secondary. It is where I am now but not necessarily where I'll always be.

crazyguy

ebayqueen,

I am sorry if you have taken offence to the post however having amended one already I feel that by asking me to remove this as well you are being very ott, my reason for this is because the OP asked about religion and I posted a genuine link to a religious group and as I also said previously if you feel that it is to much to cope with or read either look away or post on a different forum after all religion has nothing to do with money saving and that is the aim of this particular website.

whatelse_2

Surely the child should decide what religion they wish to follow, if any? Maybe that's a too liberal and modern approach to have, but heyho.

Oh and as for those finding the link to the religion of the Flying Spaghetti monster "distasteful", is your supposed faith really not that strong enough to cope with a little humour!

erichamster

I find religion distasteful, can you please get it removed from the Earth?

"Religion is an insult to human dignity, with or without it, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things, but for good people to do evil things, it takes religion." Steven Weinberg.

Torry_Quine

erichamster wrote: »

I find religion distasteful, can you please get it removed from the Earth?

"Religion is an insult to human dignity, with or without it, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things, but for good people to do evil things, it takes religion." Steven Weinberg.

Interesting quote but not true, are you really saying that only good people who are religious do bad things as this is obviously not true.

bucketshop

OP, i think you should let the child decide when he/she is older. I think if you want to feel closer to your grandmother's religion you should go and speak to the local priests maybe discuss each denomination and then decide if you fancy joining a church.

I really don't like it when people say that you will always be whatever you're christened as eg. a lapsed catholic instead of an atheist/agnostic and i really think the choice should be left to the personal beliefs of the child in question.

Ebayqueen, if you are genuinely offended by the Flying Spaghetti Monster religion then you need to be a bit more open minded. It's as legitimate as religion as christianity and the post you were referring to did not appear to insult jesus at all so not sure where you're getting that from (unless its been edited since).

erichamster

Torry_Quine wrote: »

Interesting quote but not true, are you really saying that only good people who are religious do bad things as this is obviously not true.

No, try reading it again. It says that for otherwise morally 'good' people to do bad things, it often takes an excuse like religion. Religion allows people to do morally wrong things but still feel 'good' as they are following their religion. Therefore, the implication is that without religion, these otherwise good people would not do bad things, which would obviously benefit them and others. Morality without religion is the only true morality.

Torry_Quine

erichamster wrote: »

"but for good people to do evil things, it takes religion." Steven Weinberg.

erichamster wrote: »

No, try reading it again. It says that for otherwise morally 'good' people to do bad things, it often takes an excuse like religion. Religion allows people to do morally wrong things but still feel 'good' as they are following their religion. Therefore, the implication is that without religion, these otherwise good people would not do bad things, which would obviously benefit them and others. Morality without religion is the only true morality.

It doesn't say that it often takes an excuse like religion, it says 'for good people to do evil things, it takes religion' implying that without religion good people won't do bad things. All off us do bad things and use all kind of reasons, yes religion included, to justify them.

EchoLocation

erichamster wrote: »

No, try reading it again. It says that for otherwise morally 'good' people to do bad things, it often takes an excuse like religion. Religion allows people to do morally wrong things but still feel 'good' as they are following their religion. Therefore, the implication is that without religion, these otherwise good people would not do bad things, which would obviously benefit them and others. Morality without religion is the only true morality.

Rather like Christopher Hitchens' challenge to Theists...

Name one ethical statement made, or one ethical action performed, by a believer that could not have been uttered or done by a nonbeliever? Can anyone think of a wicked statement made, or an evil action performed, precisely because of religious faith?

Torry_Quine

EchoLocation wrote: »

Rather like Christopher Hitchens' challenge to Theists...

Name one ethical statement made, or one ethical action performed, by a believer that could not have been uttered or done by a nonbeliever? Can anyone think of a wicked statement made, or an evil action performed, precisely because of religious faith?

I agree that ethical statements can just as easily be made by a non-believer although I suspect we may disagree as to what is on occassion is ethical! I can also agree that wicked statements can be made and actions performed by the religious and justified. However where I would probably disagree that the faith is the real cause but the individual's interpretation of it.