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Changing a childs name -Help needed.

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  • thesaint
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    Bossyboots wrote:
    As hobo28 says, all a solicitor will do is print the form out and put in details you can easily do yourself. Any solicitor prepared to take money for doing this for you is pretty poor in my opinion. Everything else you need to do yourself and the court staff who can witness these are usually very empathetic to parents doing this, not least because it is preferable for parents to be able to agree, rather than use the court to fight their battles and make their decisions.


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  • My ex didnt have PR for our 2 kids... when we finished... he decided he would turn up irregularly and not pay a peny in maintenance... three years later I decided to change their surnames to mine.. why should my kids have a bums surname...?

    I wasnt married to the ex btw..

    I went to a solicitors and did it by statutory declaration.. The solicitor asked about the dad, and I said we were not in contact and no maintenance, the solicitor said he could argue against the change if he was about...

    So it seems to me that whether he has PR is not relevant... CAB will probably have something in their reference files about this
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  • specs_3
    specs_3 Posts: 102 Forumite
    So it seems to me that whether he has PR is not relevant... CAB will probably have something in their reference files about this

    This has already been established in posts #5,#7, and #10
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  • elmer
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    My parents divorced when I was small and my mother remarried a local footballer, as every one knew his name , everbody assumed he was my dad, and called me the wrong name, it was very embarrassing to explain constantly, so I asked to change my name, my dad was very unhappy, but it made my life a lot easier. When she remarried again, I remained with the footballers name as it was still easier for me

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  • Hello to you all, I just thought Id add my wierd situation to all this banter about surnames being changed.

    Last August, my neice came to live with me after a series of rows with her mum and her step dad....well actually, he`s not really her step-dad, he`s just her mum`s boyfriend. He`s still married to his wife who he left 13 yrs ago!! So he cant marry my sister until he gets a divorce ( it aint happenin). This guy (we will call him Mr.X for handiness) is a very strange character..in fact hes been caught out on so many lies over the yrs, that myself and my hubby take nothing to do with him.

    The problem is that he has changed my neice`s surname to his, leaving her with a different name to her mother...He did this about 7 yrs ago so he could get a passport for her to take her to another country, (without my sister) for a few weeks... He simply went to the registrar and told them he wanted is name on her birth cert as he was her biological father..He convinced her mum to sign a form to confirm the fact i think...and that was it. Bearing in mind the fact that my sis is very gullible as she went to a special school all her life!

    All in all, I would be interested to know if what he did was against the law? My neice hates this guy, who idolized her for years, then suddenly turned nasty when she started showing an interest in boys and socialising!!

    As you`ve probably gathered by now, this is a sinister character we are dealing with... so our main interest is in our neice`s well-being...and getting rid of him out of her life!

    Thanks in advance for any advice or comments!! xx
  • Voyager2002
    Voyager2002 Posts: 16,349 Forumite
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    samcat wrote:
    Question: if the parents were umarried. The father was violent. The mother leaves father. The father refuses to pay maintenance. The father deliberately remains jobless for 8 years and states that this is to avoid paying maintenance. Has never paid a penny. but has regularish contact. Do you think the Mother is horrid? Do you think that Mother who provides the roof over their heads, the food on their table, the safety of a non violent home, the school lunches, the clothes, the presents, the holidays, the bus fares, the pocket money, the school uniforms, and everthing the child needs with no financial support whatsoever from the father, and who changes the name to hers is horrid?

    In this kind of situation, would the father even care? Anyway, that is very different from the case under discussion.
  • Voyager2002
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    The problem is that he has changed my neice`s surname to his, leaving her with a different name to her mother...He did this about 7 yrs ago so he could get a passport for her to take her to another country, (without my sister) for a few weeks... He simply went to the registrar and told them he wanted is name on her birth cert as he was her biological father..He convinced her mum to sign a form to confirm the fact i think...and that was it. Bearing in mind the fact that my sis is very gullible as she went to a special school all her life!
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    It sounds as if Mr X committed perjury in his statements to the registrar.
  • RadoJo
    RadoJo Posts: 1,828 Forumite
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    Also, your neice could have her name changed back on her own if she is over 16, or with the help of a person with parental responsibility if she is under 16.

    However, I would be wary of pursuing a case against Mr X for perjury as it sounds as though your sister would be implicated as well if she signed the form to say he was your neice's biological father. I appreciate that she may have been conned into it by this man, but proving that in court might not be so easy, and changing your neice's name by deed poll might avert a lot of difficulty and heartache in the meantime.
  • RadoJo
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    Whooops duplicate posting - why did this suddenly appear twice?!
  • black-saturn
    black-saturn Posts: 13,935 Forumite
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    I changed both my daughters surnames to mine when I split with their dad and didn't need any permission at all from him.
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