Roundabout Etiquette

Mrs_Arcanum

Strider590 wrote: »

Roundabout etiquette? What's that? :rotfl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VQFEDE2Ru0
If you think an insurer would rule that the Focus driver was 100% at fault there if you'd hit them, you're deluded.

The Focus was correct on entering the roundabout and incorrect at exit. The following car was incorrectly positioned to enter the roundabout but correct for exit.

Given the exit route has a slip road entry from the left you need to be positioned to the right (or centre) to make the cleanest exit to the right hand side of the straight ahead exit as dictated by the markings. You could also be forced into the slip road by traffic from your right taking that exit if you insist on being on the left.

zappahey

Strider590 wrote: »

Roundabout etiquette? What's that? :rotfl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VQFEDE2Ru0

Thanks for posting this, it's a pretty good example of some of the really bad driving we see every day.

The Focus wasn't much better either.

Kilty_2

Strider_on_YouTube wrote:

It's a two lane island, though unmarked on this entrance, the narrower entrances are all two/three lanes lanes. This entrance often becomes 3 lanes when it's busy. The lane coming up the hill should be two lanes, or atleast it turns into two lanes if you ever pass that way between 5pm and 6pm. Simple fact is, when there are no arrows or road markings, one should follow the general rule of the highway code.... And I have no idea why this guy cuts dangerously into the slip lane.

It is NOT a "two lane island".

reeac

A good deal depends upon whether you have local knowledge or the prior signs are clear. If not then my tactic is to use lefthand lane until I can identify the correct exit - that way I'm positioned for the exit. I've noticed that in parts of France where I've done this [for France read righthand lane] the locals tend to cut in sharply in front but I assume that it's only to show les Anglais how to drive properly. When navigating somewhere like Hyde Park Corner it's a relaxing tactic just to go where you want to at moderate speed , ignoring traffic behind but taking account of the rest. Seems to work OK.

mikey72

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Most people learn from their mistakes.

So has strider.
He's learnt he never makes mistakes, but he sees everyone else making them.

LudaMusser

Slightly OT but, I had to do a drive with an advanced driving instructor (ADI) for two hours on thursday. He told me that NOBODY has priority on a roundabout even though when we learn to drive we are told to give way to our right. It`s only advised and is not enforceable.
He also told me that if you are driving down a road and there is a car coming towards you and that there is a vehicle parked on their side again nobody has priority. In the Highway code it says that the vehicle with the obstruction in it`s way should stop.

I remember years ago I got stopped by a police car because at a mini roundabout I did`nt give way to him as he was on my right. He appeared just as I decided to go. He pulled me over and asked me why I did`nt give way to him!!!!!!!!!

I only just remember that, I`ll ask my ADI his opinion on it lol

pendulum

LudaMusser wrote: »

... I had to do a drive with an advanced driving instructor (ADI) for two hours on thursday. He told me that NOBODY has priority on a roundabout even though when we learn to drive we are told to give way to our right. It`s only advised and is not enforceable.

It is enforceable in so much as if you enter a roundabout without giving way to a car on your right and there is a collision, you can be convicted of careless driving. You will also be found at fault by the insurance companies.

I can see why your instructor said what he did - concentration is lowered when a driver believes they have priority and hightened when they believe nobody has it - and it is a tactic to get a pupil to concentrate and think more, but it's not strictly true what he said.

reeac

LudaMusser wrote: »

Slightly OT but, I had to do a drive with an advanced driving instructor (ADI) for two hours on thursday. He told me that NOBODY has priority on a roundabout even though when we learn to drive we are told to give way to our right. It`s only advised and is not enforceable.
He also told me that if you are driving down a road and there is a car coming towards you and that there is a vehicle parked on their side again nobody has priority. In the Highway code it says that the vehicle with the obstruction in it`s way should stop.

I remember years ago I got stopped by a police car because at a mini roundabout I did`nt give way to him as he was on my right. He appeared just as I decided to go. He pulled me over and asked me why I did`nt give way to him!!!!!!!!!

I only just remember that, I`ll ask my ADI his opinion on it lol

I thought that the presence of a dashed white line across the entrance to a roundabout would mean give way i.e. don't cross this line until the road is clear.

mikey72

LudaMusser wrote: »

Slightly OT but, I had to do a drive with an advanced driving instructor (ADI) for two hours on thursday. He told me that NOBODY has priority on a roundabout even though when we learn to drive we are told to give way to our right. It`s only advised and is not enforceable.
He also told me that if you are driving down a road and there is a car coming towards you and that there is a vehicle parked on their side again nobody has priority. In the Highway code it says that the vehicle with the obstruction in it`s way should stop.

I remember years ago I got stopped by a police car because at a mini roundabout I did`nt give way to him as he was on my right. He appeared just as I decided to go. He pulled me over and asked me why I did`nt give way to him!!!!!!!!!

I only just remember that, I`ll ask my ADI his opinion on it lol

I had one like that.
Some jumped up dog handler in a police car thinking he would force his way onto an urban dual carriageway from the sliproad.
I was in the first lane, with cars in front, and to my right, but nothing behind, and doing the 40 limit in the traffic. I saw him in my nearside mirror as he accelerated to try to get in front of me, and couldn't fit. He was along side of me, and being squeezed between me and the wall on his left. I braked before he hit me or the wall. He then pulled in front and put on the blue lights. He was trying to provoke a reaction, like me sounding the horn back, or flashing the lights, so I ignored him, and in the end he put his lights off and drove away about 10mph above the 40 limit.
Any normal driver would have come down the sliproad and sensibly pulled in behind the queue.
So they're not always the best drivers, or know what they're on about.

ianbar0

we have a roundabout like this near us. the exit for us was either 1 of 2 things...1, straight over so left labe or 2, just past 12 so right lane.
whichever you did the peron next would do the opposite hense near death experiences. in the end council narrowed the road onto the roundabout with extra markings so it was single file entering it rather than 2, its been so much safer since