Tube Drivers get £50k Deal.

Dan:_4

Im bored of this tread now. See ya.

MFSaver

Dan: wrote: »

A tube driver earns £42k - im not sure if it is jealosuly or what but this is an acceptable salary for the job in question and the hours, weekends, bank holidays involved.

How many hours do they work per week?
How many weekends do they work per year?
How many bank holidays do they work per year?

I am willing to consider your reasons, but you do need to give numbers to justify using them to back up your argument.

Also, how much annual leave do they get per year?

If people are willing to pay them 50k a year, good for them, except that many expect the union to wail in a few years how tube drivers are being exploited and mistreated, and therefore deserve pay rises.

ILW

MFSaver wrote: »

How many hours do they work per week?
How many weekends do they work per year?
How many bank holidays do they work per year?

I am willing to consider your reasons, but you do need to give numbers to justify using them to back up your argument.

Also, how much annual leave do they get per year?

If people are willing to pay them 50k a year, good for them, except that many expect the union to wail in a few years how tube drivers are being exploited and mistreated, and therefore deserve pay rises.

Sadly it is taxpayers who are forced to pay the salaries, and I would suggest that the majority would rather be paying less.

ninky_2

ILW wrote: »

You seem to think that the public sector is a way of chanelling one group of peoples money into the pockets of another for political reasons, rather than just providing the best service possible. It may be true but seems wrong to me. The higher than needed salaries are either paid for by taxpayers or fare payers.

I woild prefer to drop a tube drivers salary by £20k and use the money to give people with serious disabilities a better standard of living.

tube drivers aren't public sector workers.

it doesn't matter what you would prefer. if tube drivers have the bargaining power to get a higher salary then it's their right to act in their own rational self interests to get it. any saving in salaries isn't going to go to the treasury to spend on public services for the disabled.:rotfl: (although the increased taxes generated from raised earnings do actually go to this pot).

you're very big on shoulds and shouldn'ts and government intervention aren't you?

ninky_2

ILW wrote: »

Sadly it is taxpayers who are forced to pay the salaries, and I would suggest that the majority would rather be paying less.

funny that, last time i took the tube i had to pay for the journey with a ticket price. some new fangled oyster thing. wish i'd known i could have just told them i'm a taxpayer.

ILW

ninky wrote: »

tube drivers aren't public sector workers.

it doesn't matter what you would prefer. if tube drivers have the bargaining power to get a higher salary then it's their right to act in their own rational self interests to get it. any saving in salaries isn't going to go to the treasury to spend on public services for the disabled.:rotfl: (although the increased taxes generated from raised earnings do actually go to this pot).

you're very big on shoulds and shouldn'ts and government intervention aren't you?

Think you are playing around a little there.

London Underground gets state subsidy and is not a private company.

ninky_2

ILW wrote: »

Think you are playing around a little there.

London Underground gets state subsidy and is not a private company.

northern rock. public sector workers? it's a faux dualism created by politically motivated nomenclature anyway. other than those who live self-sufficiently on their own private island, everyone is public sector.

wotsthat

ninky wrote: »

northern rock. public sector workers? it's a faux dualism created by politically motivated nomenclature anyway.

Can Geneer have his random word generator back when you've finished with it?

chewmylegoff

ninky wrote: »

well a lot of people do pay more for similar products with added 'ethics' value. organic milk is very popular for example. as are free range eggs.

trades unions are merely an expression of rational self interest. this is an absolutely necessary part of a healthy economy. it's obvious that we don't have a healthy trades union movement or a healthy economy at the moment. go figure.

I'm not certain that I agree that well paid militants pathetically abusing their right to strike come with some sort of "ethical premium".

chewmylegoff

ninky wrote: »

northern rock. public sector workers? it's a faux dualism created by politically motivated nomenclature anyway. other than those who live self-sufficiently on their own private island, everyone is public sector.

TFL is a quango reporting to the mayor of london. Its board is appointed by the mayor of london. It even has a "gov" in its website address.

Northern Rock is a government owned "asset", but yes, its employees are public sector workers at the moment, especially the ones working in the bad bank which isn't going to be sold back into private ownership.