Tube Drivers get £50k Deal.

somethingcorporate

Just because LU make it hard to get into doesn't make it a hard job to do. It's skilled labour and should get skilled labour wages. Saying that, football is manual labour and look what they earn!

Dan:_4

somethingcorporate wrote: »

Just because LU make it hard to get into doesn't make it a hard job to do. It's skilled labour and should get skilled labour wages. Saying that, football is manual labour and look what they earn!

What do you know about driving trains for London underground. Anyone can say 'it easy and they are overpaid'

What are 'skilled labour wages'?

I wonder what you do for a living?

As for football, they will earn according to their talent. i.e it is one profession that is likely to pay more early on in your career.

somethingcorporate

Dan: wrote: »

What do you know about driving trains for London underground. Anyone can say 'it easy and they are overpaid'

What are 'skilled labour wages'?

I wonder what you do for a living?

As for football, they will earn according to their talent. i.e it is one profession that is likely to pay more early on in your career.

I work in corporate finance for a FTSE100 company. You couldn't pay me £150k a year to be a tube driver or to live in london.

I agree that everyone is paid what they are worth, doesn't mean a) it is fair and equitable or b) we have to agree with it.

I'd put tube drivers wages down to £20k if I could and bump up all nurses / POs / firefighters / armed forces that risk their lives every day up to something respectable.

lobbyludd

Bob Crowe did what he was paid to do. well.

Do I think that a tube driver is worth £50K p.a? no, even with the defences given here - but I am not their boss, so I don't actually know what they do, and it seems for now, the government has okayed this.

I would imagine, though, that given who is in government, that once the olympics are over, things will be changed rapidly.

I can't blame the tube drivers for using their leverage, that's what happens in a market, things are priced to the level the market can tolerate: if you are that fed up about it exercise CHOICE. That is the point of a capatilism don't use the tubes, slash profits - rather than rant and moan about it and demonise those people who are using their leverage to maximise their capital.

Firms need to get over their insistance on being based in london: there are very few industries (other than the tourist industry) where the actual geographic location of london is beneficial, it is more about critical mass, address kudos and not being the odd one out..... however, the market should be able to sort that out, but we just have to make it attractive for industries/companies to jump within the UK rather than elsewhere, and to a certain extent, people need to get over their love-affair with working in the capital (and moaning about the commute or property prices).

Innovate either geographically or innovate your working practices so you don't have to physically be inside the M25.

And if you are really so sure that the public sector in this country is ruining it (I had no idea the LU was public sector) then move somewhere else with less public sector - like ???.

C_Mababejive

pimento wrote: »

I'm sure there are a few hundred Lithuanians who would do the job for £10k.

Coming soon to an employer near you!

Just be careful they dont do your job too..:)

Dan:_4

somethingcorporate wrote: »

I work in corporate finance for a FTSE100 company. You couldn't pay me £150k a year to be a tube driver or to live in london.

I agree that everyone is paid what they are worth, doesn't mean a) it is fair and equitable or b) we have to agree with it.

I'd put tube drivers wages down to £20k if I could and bump up all nurses / POs / firefighters / armed forces that risk their lives every day up to something respectable.

You can't just 'bump up' all nurses / POs / firefighters salary - their salary will completely vary depending on their location and stage of career.

A new bobby commencing service in central London will earn less then a tube driver.

A Sergenat with 20 years experience working in central London will earn far more then a tube driver.

somethingcorporate

Dan: wrote: »

You can't just 'bump up' all nurses / POs / firefighters salary - their salary will completely vary depending on their location and stage of career.

A new bobby commencing service in central London will earn less then a tube driver.

A Sergenat with 20 years experience working in central London will earn far more then a tube driver.

It wasn't a fully detailed green paper on how I would implement such a plan, it was merely a gripe about the equity of the situation. If it takes a tube driver 20 years to get to 50k then great, but it doesn't. It's hardly a reward for effort, risk or expertise. Arguably a london bus driver has a far harder life having to deal with the public / london traffic etc than a tube driver yet earns what, £30k-£35k?

ILW

pimento wrote: »

I don't think you can just sack people these days though.

I may be wrong...

Think that is a major cause of many of this countries problems.

pimento

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Just be careful they dont do your job too..:)

Yes, that was rather my point.

Andy_L

Is this £50k basic or does it include overtime/shift/unsocial hours etc?