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Tube Drivers get £50k Deal.

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  • Dan: wrote: »
    If you think that the nurse pay scale structure and training programme is unfair then fine, but it's a different issue.

    A tube driver earns £42k - im not sure if it is jealosuly or what but this is an acceptable salary for the job in question and the hours, weekends, bank holidays involved.

    Sure, the ‘actual’ driving is probarly the easy bit but there is much more knowledge required.

    Understanding the signals and the routes (believe it or not but sometimes the signal control centre sends the train the wrong way – the driver has to sort this out OR better still, ensure it don’t happen in the first place)

    Maintenance – drivers have to perform safety checks, have to know how to get their train moving if it breaks down in a tunnel.

    Emergency - have to know how to evacuate a train in an emergency and guide people down the tunnel and to the surface.

    Tube Train drivers have to be 100% alert and full concentration is required. What they can never do is sit on MSE and Facebook all day like many others who are jelous of their salary.

    Fortunately I make more than a tube driver and like I said before you could not pay me enough to do it.

    Can you clarify what more responsibility a tube driver has than a bus driver that would account for the additional £15k-£20k salary? The tube drivers don't even need to deal with the london public which should come with danger pay from a bus drivers perspective!
    Thinking critically since 1996....
  • ess0two
    ess0two Posts: 3,606 Forumite
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/mar/13/tube-driver


    Explains it briefly wrt to training etc.
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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    ninky wrote: »
    cos it is better because that 'something' is actually a worker and the difference in payment will have a big knock on effect to their quality of life. or do you see no difference in being paid 30k or 50k a year?

    I beliive the public sector should have a duty to get the best possible value for their "customers".
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    it's a bit of a red herring to compare bus drivers and tube drivers. the only reason bus drivers get paid less is they have less bargaining power due to the structure of their industry and fragmentation of the workforce compared to tube drivers who have one employer and thus one common interest.

    it's like the UN. who has the most say? the big guys or the little guys?

    the question should not be why do tube drivers get 50k but why do so many jobs pay so little that the welfare state needs to bail out people in fulltime employment?
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • So you can be a tube driver younger than you can be a bus driver! Says it all if you ask me. The wages is down to nothing more than a powerful union.
    Thinking critically since 1996....
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    I beliive the public sector should have a duty to get the best possible value for their "customers".

    great thinking.....and who picks up the pieces of those on poverty wages? ....public spending.......cue global economic crisis.

    equilibrium.

    we don't have it.
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    So you can be a tube driver younger than you can be a bus driver! Says it all if you ask me. The wages is down to nothing more than a powerful union.

    gold star. go to the top of the class.

    and the powerful union is down to?
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • pimento
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    Yes, they'd need to know you are a union man first.

    Not true. My cousin is a London tube driver and she is proud of the fact that she has never gone on strike.
    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    ninky wrote: »
    great thinking.....and who picks up the pieces of those on poverty wages? ....public spending.......cue global economic crisis.

    equilibrium.

    we don't have it.

    You seem to think that the public sector is a way of chanelling one group of peoples money into the pockets of another for political reasons, rather than just providing the best service possible. It may be true but seems wrong to me. The higher than needed salaries are either paid for by taxpayers or fare payers.

    I woild prefer to drop a tube drivers salary by £20k and use the money to give people with serious disabilities a better standard of living.
  • ninky wrote: »
    gold star. go to the top of the class.

    and the powerful union is down to?

    Wahey, gold star!

    political corruption? luck? Certainly not down to the skills required to become a tube driver.
    Thinking critically since 1996....
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