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Bathroom tiling meets coving ...

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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    Here is the bath:

    DSC_0046.jpg

    No signs of any wooden supports. Is that an issue?
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  • andyhop
    andyhop Posts: 1,996 Forumite
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    Leif wrote: »
    He has finished with the top tiles resting on the coving edge, hence lifted well away from the wall. He says he will do the edges on monday using grout not trim because trim goes yellow.

    A professional on another forum says to get rid of him and redo it all. However, the bath is in place, and most tiling done, as well as plastering. It will cost a fortune to redo.

    Also from a conversation on friday I don't think he is part P registered even though he is installing a shower, fan and shaver socket. So he said there is no certificate but it is okay as I had my fuse box replaced.

    Should I get rid of this person and learn an expensive lesson? He charges about £5K and I paid £3K deposit. I have the furniture in the house and the bath has been installed.

    Can any professional please confirm this person is working to low standards? Am I entitled to ask him to leave and pay no more? Is he acting legally in terms of electrics?

    All bathroom electrical work requires notification, It is not unusual for the installer to do the 1st fix and have a sparky come along and test/connect up with any remedial work required

    For what you have paid its a very shoddy job

    Tile trims from Genesis come in a range of shapes and finishes, Using grout to finish is a bodge and you will never be able to neatly conceal the biscuit colour of the tile

    I install complete bathrooms day in day out and i would be ashamed to take money of a customer for a job like that
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  • andyhop
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    Bath feet on Chipboard flooring:eek:

    Should have 4x2 to span the weight over the floor otherwise your bath is going to drop

    Certainly no plumber with the 3ft flexi hoses
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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    andyhop wrote: »
    Bath feet on Chipboard flooring:eek:

    Should have 4x2 to span the weight over the floor otherwise your bath is going to drop

    Certainly no plumber with the 3ft flexi hoses

    No, it's a concrete/screed floor.

    I am considering asking him to leave, as I concerned what else he might do wrong. Thoughts?

    And then the issue is how to find someone reliable to put right. Incidentally he tiled the floor too, though it is not visible. He said he did a decent job though the floor was rough. I cannot judge.
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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    andyhop wrote: »
    Thats not a neat job
    Tiles dont look flat with the wall, looking at the corners either the plasterer cant plaster or the tilers level is shaped like a banana

    The plaster does not look to have been primed by looking at the edges, plaster appears to be the same in colour. Primer G etc usually gives a shine

    He said: "The adhesive used was to make sure the tile had good bonding to the wall cause the wall dived away and had nothing to do with anything else.".

    No idea about priming. Are you saying he should prime before tiling? The photo was taken this afternoon. He tiled on friday.
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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    aliasojo wrote: »
    :eek:

    I honestly thought you had got someone in on the cheap.

    That's ridiculous. So is his thoughts about tile trim. He just doesn't want to have to mitre the corners.

    I wouldn't be able to leave that the way it is and I certainly wouldn't let him carry on if that's the level of his workmanship.

    It included the furniture which is about £1.5K at RRP prices. Probably £1K to him.
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  • andyhop
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    andrew-b wrote: »
    Seriously looks ok where i did it (though the edge gap doesnt vary on mine) and dulux bathroom+ natural hessian is very close to tile edge colour anyway but has adhered absolutely fine and doesnt come off when cleaning either. I did actually buy trim then decided white plastic cheapened the look so i took it back. I couldnt justify chrome that might go flaky/rusty - not simple to replace trim without removing tiles.

    You dont pay a proffesional to bodge a job and cut corners

    What you do in your own home as DIY is up to you but theres a right way and a wrong way

    I would have expected the installer to show the customer a range of trim samples that manufactors like Genesis give away for free, If Genesis items can withstand the abuse in commercial properties, shopping malls etc it can cope with a household bathroom
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  • andyhop
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    Leif wrote: »
    He said: "The adhesive used was to make sure the tile had good bonding to the wall cause the wall dived away and had nothing to do with anything else.".

    No idea about priming. Are you saying he should prime before tiling? The photo was taken this afternoon. He tiled on friday.

    2 types of tile adhesive

    Ready mixed tubbed stuff, works by dispersion but can only go to approx 6mm depth or it will never fully dry out

    Cement based powder that you have to mix with water, Dries by chemical reaction and can go up to around 15mm in depth. Ideal when needing to pack out tiles

    Ready mixed is generally self priming

    Cement based requires priming when using on Gypsum substrates(plaster). The cement reacts with gypsum and can cause the tiles to pop off
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  • andyhop
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    andrew-b wrote: »
    Clickable picture:
    th_IMG_0701.jpg... shows the result of what i'm suggesting. Just the best pic i have to hand to illustrate. Note my edit above saying not to grout the actual tile edge..just the gap. Realised i might not have made it clear.

    Still a bodge!!

    Always use tile trim suited to depth of wall tile and adhesive, Then a 3mm bead of silicone (Mapei colour matched to trim/tile /paint) is neatly tooled to finish the trim edge. Filling with grout will crack over time as you have different substrates/materials
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  • Leif
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    andrew-b wrote: »
    In an ideal world i'd want the coving removed and the ceiling reskimmed around the edges.

    Can that be done? I can fit coving no problem, but I don't know if a plasterer can skim the corners, and surely he'd have to tape.

    I am thinking about telling him to leave tomorrow morning, and asking a local building firm to take a look, for a fee of course, and give a short written assessment. If they say it is fine, mmm, but if they say the workmanship is poor, then I am firmer ground.
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