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  • lindos90
    lindos90 Posts: 3,211 Forumite
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    Can you take any pics and upload them here, so we can see what he's done? Might make more sense, and someone may be able to advise you better on a remedy for it.
  • andyhop
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    Sounds like a bodge

    If the room was skimmed then it would have been a hours labour to remove coving and scrape off adhesive

    I can not see how it can look a good job with tiles that lean out towards the top of the wall, Get a few images
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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    lindos90 wrote: »
    Unless your walls are really uneven, or there are areas where you will not be tiling, im not sure why it needed replastering if you are tiling all over?

    What kind of coving is it? I would be tempted to remove it and either replace it with a larger coving which comes down onto rather than upto the edge of your new plaster, im guessing with your sizes that this would leave the new tiles about level with the coving edge. Or better still, put the tiles on first and then coving ontop, so you get a proper overhang of coving over the tiles.

    Im having a similar dilemma about skirting boards..tile up to the skirting boards, remove them for tiling then replace ontop, or no skirting boards at all!

    Yes, some areas of wall were to be painted. Also the ceiling was rough, and plaster came off when tiles were removed, so skimming was the best option.

    I thought about removing the existing coving, but I suspect that would pull off the new plaster, and create a right mess, and it'd be impossible to put up new coving properly. I've put up coving in three rooms, it was easy, but I did it properly. In two cases I put it up after the ceiling was reboarded.
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  • keystone
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    The way I do this is to remove the coving, have any necessary plasterwork done, calculate thickness of tile plus addy, fix plasterboard strips to wall of same thickness just calculated then fix new coving to ceiling and the plasterboard strips. Whilst this brings the coving slightly into the room it preserves the bottom edge of the coving when tiling is complete. Tiling up to existing coving always but always looks carp.

    Agree with others sounds like a bodge but a pic of two would be good.

    To the other poster - forget skirting board with a fully tiled wall. It also looks carp. Tile right to floor as already suggested.

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  • melb
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    can't believe the poster who said it was your fault for not knowing how to do it! that's why you pay tradesmen in the first place. unfortunately a lot of them couldn't give a **** what it looks like so long as it's easy for them and they can get away with it
  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    edited 2 October 2011 at 6:20PM
    melb wrote: »
    can't believe the poster who said it was your fault for not knowing how to do it! that's why you pay tradesmen in the first place. unfortunately a lot of them couldn't give a **** what it looks like so long as it's easy for them and they can get away with it

    Me neither. When he says "Unfortunately I would respectfully suggest this is a result of ignorance on your part, as opposed to the fault of either of your tradesman. They are only acting on customers instructions! " I am completely lost for words. Talk about avoiding responsibility for bad work.

    Here are some pictures:

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    You can see that he is resting the tiles on the edge of the coving. You can also see in the third picture that the two halves of the hole he cut for the left hand copper pipe (where two tiles join) do not meet, and will be visible when he puts on the shower unit (there are two 5cmm diameter plates that fit on the wall). Not exactly the neatest work. That said, the tiling is neat, apart from the bodge at the ceiling.

    Is there any way to fix this so that it looks good? I am concerned that any 'fix' would makes things worse since he has not done it right in the first place, and it is now plastered.
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  • andyhop
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    Thats not a neat job

    You can see from the images the tiles have minor steps

    There is no end trims

    Tiles dont look flat with the wall, looking at the corners either the plasterer cant plaster or the tilers level is shaped like a banana

    The plaster does not look to have been primed by looking at the edges, plaster appears to be the same in colour. Primer G etc usually gives a shine
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  • aliasojo
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    What is going at the edge of the tiles OP? Surely tile trim should have been used to finish off? I think a lack of communication may be at fault for some of the issues here tbh.

    It's looks like the tiler decided it would look better like that at the top, without actually running it by you first. It's not what most would have done.
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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    andyhop wrote: »
    Thats not a neat job

    You can see from the images the tiles have minor steps

    There is no end trims

    Tiles dont look flat with the wall, looking at the corners either the plasterer cant plaster or the tilers level is shaped like a banana

    The plaster does not look to have been primed by looking at the edges, plaster appears to be the same in colour. Primer G etc usually gives a shine

    He has finished with the top tiles resting on the coving edge, hence lifted well away from the wall. He says he will do the edges on monday using grout not trim because trim goes yellow.

    A professional on another forum says to get rid of him and redo it all. However, the bath is in place, and most tiling done, as well as plastering. It will cost a fortune to redo.

    Also from a conversation on friday I don't think he is part P registered even though he is installing a shower, fan and shaver socket. So he said there is no certificate but it is okay as I had my fuse box replaced.

    Should I get rid of this person and learn an expensive lesson? He charges about £5K and I paid £3K deposit. I have the furniture in the house and the bath has been installed.

    Can any professional please confirm this person is working to low standards? Am I entitled to ask him to leave and pay no more? Is he acting legally in terms of electrics?
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  • aliasojo
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    Leif wrote: »
    He charges about £5K and I paid £3K deposit.

    :eek:

    I honestly thought you had got someone in on the cheap.

    That's ridiculous. So is his thoughts about tile trim. He just doesn't want to have to mitre the corners.

    I wouldn't be able to leave that the way it is and I certainly wouldn't let him carry on if that's the level of his workmanship.
    Herman - MP for all! :)
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